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Rough math on this: $5/gallon diesel with 5mpg = $1/mile fuel cost. 1.7kwh/mile * $0.1/kwh = $0.17/mile. $0.83/mile savings * 400 miles/day * 250 days a year =

Rough math on this: $5/gallon diesel with 5mpg = $1/mile fuel cost. 1.7kwh/mile * $0.1/kwh = $0.17/mile. $0.83/mile savings * 400 miles/day * 250 days a year = $83,000/year in fuel savings. I suspect that charging infrastructure is going to be expensive, but cheap enough that if an operator has multiple trucks, the payback will be pretty fast and the low margins will incentive faster adoption for short haul trucking. Long haul is another beast entirely (don't hold your breath for that industry to come around before well into the 2030s), but short haul should eat this up!

bluGill 4y ago
Just in fuel savings over the life of a truck that pays for those whole truck. Not the difference, the entire cost of the truck. Margins in trucking are too tight to ignore that much money. Getting charging in place is critical, but nobody in trucking can afford to ignore that.
- bombcar 4y ago
  There’s also potentially cheaper maintenance - no engine to keep running, and less brake usage. That could add up. Companies will be looking at these even if they just buy one to use as a yard shunter at first. If the economics are there it’ll take off like wildfire.
  - bluGill 4y ago
    A little cheaper, but in the parts that are different between an EV and a ICE are very reliable. You miss oil changes, but most routine maintenance is still needed (though few people rotate their tires as often as they should)
    - aperson_hello 4y ago
      Mostly brake maintenance! But that's rounding error. Most of the savings is fuel.
legolas2412 4y ago
0.1$/kwhr? Superchargers now cost up to 0.5$/kwhr. These cost money to build. https://electrek.co/2022/09/28/tesla-hikes-supercharger-prices-california/ https://electrek.co/2022/09/28/tesla-hikes-supercharger-pric...
- aperson_hello 4y ago
  That's in CA though - and at retail pricing. I suspect most customers will have captive chargers and will be running at industrial rates (so even less than $0.1/kwh).

bluGill 4y ago

Just in fuel savings over the life of a truck that pays for those whole truck. Not the difference, the entire cost of the truck. Margins in trucking are too tight to ignore that much money. Getting charging in place is critical, but nobody in trucking can afford to ignore that.

bombcar 4y ago
There’s also potentially cheaper maintenance - no engine to keep running, and less brake usage. That could add up. Companies will be looking at these even if they just buy one to use as a yard shunter at first. If the economics are there it’ll take off like wildfire.
- bluGill 4y ago
  A little cheaper, but in the parts that are different between an EV and a ICE are very reliable. You miss oil changes, but most routine maintenance is still needed (though few people rotate their tires as often as they should)
  - aperson_hello 4y ago
    Mostly brake maintenance! But that's rounding error. Most of the savings is fuel.

legolas2412 4y ago

0.1$/kwhr? Superchargers now cost up to 0.5$/kwhr. These cost money to build. https://electrek.co/2022/09/28/tesla-hikes-supercharger-prices-california/ https://electrek.co/2022/09/28/tesla-hikes-supercharger-pric...

aperson_hello 4y ago
That's in CA though - and at retail pricing. I suspect most customers will have captive chargers and will be running at industrial rates (so even less than $0.1/kwh).