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This is a rather unhelpful response given that I'm not sure many would guess correctly. Paper books have been used in the US for decades and electronic devices

This is a rather unhelpful response given that I'm not sure many would guess correctly. Paper books have been used in the US for decades and electronic devices were made mandatory for most drivers (>8 days out of 30, apparently). Canada is now planning to emulate the US regulations on this. > An ELD is an Electronic Logging Device that became compulsory in 2017 in the US for commercial driving operations required to keep hours of service records. If a driver has eight or more days worth of duty status logs (out of 30) they will be required by law to use an ELD. https://www.optac.info/uk/eld-vs-tachograph/ https://www.optac.info/uk/eld-vs-tachograph/ https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/hours-service/elds/eld-fact-sheet-english-version https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/hours-service/elds/eld-fact-sheet-...

oblio 4y ago
The legislation linked is not about enforced breaks for drivers, though. Does the US have this?
- rascul 4y ago
  Yes. https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-hours-service-regulations https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-...
  - oblio 4y ago
    Cool, didn't know that, kind of surprising that the US would regulate this, knowing their general stances. The conditions are quite harsh, compare them with this: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/work-abroad/rules-working-road-transport/index_en.htm#shortcut-4 https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/work-abroad/rules...
  - tecleandor 4y ago
    Well, it's still far from EU, but it's something. Although rest times are VERY short. US: - max 11h driving after 10h of rest (that sums 21h, so I guess you can drive 14h a day) - rest 30min every 8h of uninterrupted driving - max 60h driving a week EU: - max 9h driving a day (10h driving allowed twice a week) - rest 45min every 4.5h of uninterrupted driving - max 56h driving a week. max 90 every two weeks.
- yourapostasy 4y ago
  Once you are switched to ELD's in the US, it is more difficult (compared to paper log books) to cheat enforcement [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hours_of_service#Enforcement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hours_of_service#Enforcement

oblio 4y ago

The legislation linked is not about enforced breaks for drivers, though. Does the US have this?

rascul 4y ago
Yes. https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-hours-service-regulations https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-service/summary-...
- oblio 4y ago
  Cool, didn't know that, kind of surprising that the US would regulate this, knowing their general stances. The conditions are quite harsh, compare them with this: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/work-abroad/rules-working-road-transport/index_en.htm#shortcut-4 https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/work-abroad/rules...
- tecleandor 4y ago
  Well, it's still far from EU, but it's something. Although rest times are VERY short. US: - max 11h driving after 10h of rest (that sums 21h, so I guess you can drive 14h a day) - rest 30min every 8h of uninterrupted driving - max 60h driving a week EU: - max 9h driving a day (10h driving allowed twice a week) - rest 45min every 4.5h of uninterrupted driving - max 56h driving a week. max 90 every two weeks.
yourapostasy 4y ago
Once you are switched to ELD's in the US, it is more difficult (compared to paper log books) to cheat enforcement [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hours_of_service#Enforcement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hours_of_service#Enforcement