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The alternative is full scale regression, aka world war 3. There is no way back to the world that was, even if all instincts yell at us to go there. We went to

The alternative is full scale regression, aka world war 3. There is no way back to the world that was, even if all instincts yell at us to go there. We went to the trap door and cant retreat into the past. The physics of the situation do not bow to the powers of believe and wishfull thinking.

nbzso 4y ago
Strongly disagree. And the war is ongoing since 2013. Ukraine's conflict is just a symptom and distraction for the masses. The real war is on the peripherals and monetary models.
- ben_w 4y ago
  > Ukraine's conflict is just a symptom and distraction for the masses. I think that's limited to Russia and Russian masses. The rest of the world didn't want Russia to start with Crimea, told Russia that was bad and to stop at the time, saw the Russian buildup to the broader invasion this year and told Russia not to start anything new, supplied arms to Ukraine to help them defend themselves, and then cut Russia off from the world as fast as possible when Russia crossed the border that Russia denied they were going to cross. This is all on Russia. > The real war is on the peripherals and monetary models. That's like saying "the real Satanists are the Catholics and the Protestants".
  - nbzso 4y ago
    No. Russia and Putin are not the reasons behind the world crisis. They are just a symptom. But this is the ultimate scapegoat. COVID didn't succeed for the planned reset. This will do it. Surely.
    - ben_w 4y ago
      > Russia and Putin are not the reasons behind the world crisis. They are just a symptom. No. They are neither. The Soviet Union fell, Putin (eventually) took over Russia, then took advantage of the corruption and stayed in power. He’s acting like a thug, but would’ve regardless of anyone or anything else. He’s not part of anyone else’s grand design, none of the other world leaders even like him, they just have a long-standing policy of not (openly) interfering with the internal affairs of other nations, and by “long-standing” I mean since 24 October 1648. No, that’s not a typo for 1948. > But this is the ultimate scapegoat. COVID didn't succeed for the planned reset. This will do it. Surely. What are you even talking about? Do you even know what The Great Reset is, or are you just referring to one of the many different and mutually incompatible things that various conspiracy theorists project onto the actual WEF goal of “stuff is bad, can we, like, not suck so much?” (A common goal, and a very difficult one; it’s not like either Karl Marx nor Adam Smith would disagree when phrased like that).

nbzso 4y ago

Strongly disagree. And the war is ongoing since 2013. Ukraine's conflict is just a symptom and distraction for the masses. The real war is on the peripherals and monetary models.

ben_w 4y ago
> Ukraine's conflict is just a symptom and distraction for the masses. I think that's limited to Russia and Russian masses. The rest of the world didn't want Russia to start with Crimea, told Russia that was bad and to stop at the time, saw the Russian buildup to the broader invasion this year and told Russia not to start anything new, supplied arms to Ukraine to help them defend themselves, and then cut Russia off from the world as fast as possible when Russia crossed the border that Russia denied they were going to cross. This is all on Russia. > The real war is on the peripherals and monetary models. That's like saying "the real Satanists are the Catholics and the Protestants".
- nbzso 4y ago
  No. Russia and Putin are not the reasons behind the world crisis. They are just a symptom. But this is the ultimate scapegoat. COVID didn't succeed for the planned reset. This will do it. Surely.
  - ben_w 4y ago
    > Russia and Putin are not the reasons behind the world crisis. They are just a symptom. No. They are neither. The Soviet Union fell, Putin (eventually) took over Russia, then took advantage of the corruption and stayed in power. He’s acting like a thug, but would’ve regardless of anyone or anything else. He’s not part of anyone else’s grand design, none of the other world leaders even like him, they just have a long-standing policy of not (openly) interfering with the internal affairs of other nations, and by “long-standing” I mean since 24 October 1648. No, that’s not a typo for 1948. > But this is the ultimate scapegoat. COVID didn't succeed for the planned reset. This will do it. Surely. What are you even talking about? Do you even know what The Great Reset is, or are you just referring to one of the many different and mutually incompatible things that various conspiracy theorists project onto the actual WEF goal of “stuff is bad, can we, like, not suck so much?” (A common goal, and a very difficult one; it’s not like either Karl Marx nor Adam Smith would disagree when phrased like that).