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I think that's because setting up and maintaining the small neighborhood networks is work. People mostly don't care for that, they just want to have that group

I think that's because setting up and maintaining the small neighborhood networks is work. People mostly don't care for that, they just want to have that group going with a bunch of people / play that game / etc. The "geeky" aspect of things is just a hindrance to their goals. 30 years ago, they had to do that if they wanted to participate. Mostly, they chose to not participate at all. Today, they can outsource those things, so they gladly do so. I also have those memories and am a bit nostalgic of the internet of olde, and maybe even somewhat annoyed with some aspects of what it has become, but I can't help but notice a certain discrepancy even in myself. While I absolutely love tinkering with my computers, and, for lack of interested neighbours, doing the small network all by myself in my apartment, I really don't have the same relationship with my phone, which I consider just like an appliance: allow me to call people, play some music, show me a map, and leave me alone.

lifeisstillgood 4y ago
But, there is a reasonable chance that a local wireless mesh will be far less work than you might think (ie technically an appliance) - but it will still need / benefit from moderation and participation- the "fun" bits.
- lgas 4y ago
  But there's an already an alternative that allows you to spend exactly zero time and effort maintaining a local wireless mesh network. And you still get to have the fun bits. So why bother involving the local wireless mesh at all?
  - wizzwizz4 4y ago
    The local wireless mesh makes it much harder for l33t script kiddies on the other side of the world to pwn ur base. (You still have to watch out for sophisticated malware, but you're not going to get hit by, say, DDoS attacks.)
- b112 4y ago
  When most people started to discover the internet, early 00s, facebook wasn't as it is now. It appeared less malign, wasn't able to track as much, and just less creepy. It grew into what it is, slowly. So when the potential for this dream of community owned stuff could have born fruit, facebook was simple, easy, and far more appealing. You see facebook now, after the vine has slowly grown, twisted about its users, crushing, but at first it was a pretty plant. Facebook would have never, ever, ever been as popular, or twitter, if they started as they did.

lifeisstillgood 4y ago

But, there is a reasonable chance that a local wireless mesh will be far less work than you might think (ie technically an appliance) - but it will still need / benefit from moderation and participation- the "fun" bits.

lgas 4y ago
But there's an already an alternative that allows you to spend exactly zero time and effort maintaining a local wireless mesh network. And you still get to have the fun bits. So why bother involving the local wireless mesh at all?
- wizzwizz4 4y ago
  The local wireless mesh makes it much harder for l33t script kiddies on the other side of the world to pwn ur base. (You still have to watch out for sophisticated malware, but you're not going to get hit by, say, DDoS attacks.)
b112 4y ago
When most people started to discover the internet, early 00s, facebook wasn't as it is now. It appeared less malign, wasn't able to track as much, and just less creepy. It grew into what it is, slowly. So when the potential for this dream of community owned stuff could have born fruit, facebook was simple, easy, and far more appealing. You see facebook now, after the vine has slowly grown, twisted about its users, crushing, but at first it was a pretty plant. Facebook would have never, ever, ever been as popular, or twitter, if they started as they did.