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> Elon's word is worth very little these days His words are worth fine. Articles and second hand mangled version of what he actually says is worth nothing - I

by oxplot 4y ago

> Elon's word is worth very little these days His words are worth fine. Articles and second hand mangled version of what he actually says is worth nothing - I agree. As far as this topic is concerned, demand for Tesla Semi is enough evidence.

chronic94038 4y ago
- oxplot 4y ago
  > Tesla is dead as a company. Oh one of you. Would be great if you spread this as far as you can and get the Tesla share prices to drop so I can buy them cheap. Cheerio ;)
  - inferiorhuman 4y ago
    So Tesla isn't offering incentives? https://electrek.co/2022/12/01/tesla-tsla-gives-3750-discount-for-model-3-y-in-the-us-this-month/ https://electrek.co/2022/12/01/tesla-tsla-gives-3750-discoun...
    - LanceJones 4y ago
      Yes. This incentive applies only to the US. Only for December. Only on certain variants of Model 3 and Y. All thanks to people unwilling to take delivery in December due to IRA kicking in on January 1, 2023.
      - inferiorhuman 4y ago
        So basically the days of people wanting to pay a premium for Tesla are over?
  - hoseja 4y ago
    They're spreading FOMO because they're short. They keep losing.
- panick21_ 4y ago
  Tesla offered a discount in order to that people do not wait until buying in January when a new credit becomes available to people. And this is in a tiny part of the global market as well. To jump from 'company offers discount' to 'company is dead' is literally the dumbest fucking argument I have ever heard. Seriously wtf. Also they literally made record profit last quarter and are expected to make record profit this quarter all while still growing rapidly for a company this large. Claiming Tesla is a dead company is really the height of idiocy. Like if you don't like Musk that fine, but really just denying reality because of that makes you look like very foolish.
akiselev 4y ago
> As far as this topic is concerned, demand for Tesla Semi is enough evidence. The Tesla Semi is the Tinker Bell of automotive.
JumpCrisscross 4y ago
- oxplot 4y ago
  - inferiorhuman 4y ago
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  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > When people have to resort to this as the leading example of their argument, it's clear they've got nothing of substance left to argue with Tesla and SpaceX are dependent on D.C. Elon was historically Teflon. Denying a gift to an opposition is delusional. It’s not going to tank the company. But it takes the good-natured response to his timeline optimism, and potentially re-frames it.
- mlindner 4y ago
  > Objectively untrue. His statements are weighed. They once weren’t. Buying into partisan pædophile conspiracies has a price. He hasn't done that once. This is exactly the "mangled version of what he actually says" the previous poster was talking about.
  - adamors 4y ago
    He just called a person rescuing children from an underwater cave a pedophile. https://www.npr.org/2019/12/06/785747858/los-angeles-jury-finds-no-defamation-in-elon-musks-pedo-guy-tweet https://www.npr.org/2019/12/06/785747858/los-angeles-jury-fi...
    - oxplot 4y ago
      First off, it's almost 2023. He didn't "just" call that person a pedophile. Also, the dude went to court - court found he wasted everyone's time, didn't pay him a cent. Turns out you can't just charge people for defamation because of angry remark they may make.
canadianfella 4y ago

by oxplot 4y ago

chronic94038 4y ago

oxplot 4y ago
> Tesla is dead as a company. Oh one of you. Would be great if you spread this as far as you can and get the Tesla share prices to drop so I can buy them cheap. Cheerio ;)
- inferiorhuman 4y ago
  So Tesla isn't offering incentives? https://electrek.co/2022/12/01/tesla-tsla-gives-3750-discount-for-model-3-y-in-the-us-this-month/ https://electrek.co/2022/12/01/tesla-tsla-gives-3750-discoun...
  - LanceJones 4y ago
    Yes. This incentive applies only to the US. Only for December. Only on certain variants of Model 3 and Y. All thanks to people unwilling to take delivery in December due to IRA kicking in on January 1, 2023.
    - inferiorhuman 4y ago
      So basically the days of people wanting to pay a premium for Tesla are over?
- hoseja 4y ago
  They're spreading FOMO because they're short. They keep losing.
panick21_ 4y ago
Tesla offered a discount in order to that people do not wait until buying in January when a new credit becomes available to people. And this is in a tiny part of the global market as well. To jump from 'company offers discount' to 'company is dead' is literally the dumbest fucking argument I have ever heard. Seriously wtf. Also they literally made record profit last quarter and are expected to make record profit this quarter all while still growing rapidly for a company this large. Claiming Tesla is a dead company is really the height of idiocy. Like if you don't like Musk that fine, but really just denying reality because of that makes you look like very foolish.

akiselev 4y ago

> As far as this topic is concerned, demand for Tesla Semi is enough evidence. The Tesla Semi is the Tinker Bell of automotive.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago

oxplot 4y ago
- inferiorhuman 4y ago
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- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  > When people have to resort to this as the leading example of their argument, it's clear they've got nothing of substance left to argue with Tesla and SpaceX are dependent on D.C. Elon was historically Teflon. Denying a gift to an opposition is delusional. It’s not going to tank the company. But it takes the good-natured response to his timeline optimism, and potentially re-frames it.
mlindner 4y ago
> Objectively untrue. His statements are weighed. They once weren’t. Buying into partisan pædophile conspiracies has a price. He hasn't done that once. This is exactly the "mangled version of what he actually says" the previous poster was talking about.
- adamors 4y ago
  He just called a person rescuing children from an underwater cave a pedophile. https://www.npr.org/2019/12/06/785747858/los-angeles-jury-finds-no-defamation-in-elon-musks-pedo-guy-tweet https://www.npr.org/2019/12/06/785747858/los-angeles-jury-fi...
  - oxplot 4y ago
    First off, it's almost 2023. He didn't "just" call that person a pedophile. Also, the dude went to court - court found he wasted everyone's time, didn't pay him a cent. Turns out you can't just charge people for defamation because of angry remark they may make.

canadianfella 4y ago