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I think this is what the parent refers to https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1599253199126683650 https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1599253199126683650, thou

by erk__ 4y ago

I think this is what the parent refers to https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1599253199126683650 https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1599253199126683650, though there is no confirmation that they are behind it, only that they are glad that it happened.

paulmd 4y ago
"the power is out and I know why" implies advance knowledge of the attack at the least, and most likely their involvement in planning/coordination. why else would she know? Also, we shouldn't mince words here, this is a terrorist attack on civilian infrastructure for political ends. If this had been done by islamists, we'd call it as such. Instead we play the "gosh well she technically didn't say she did it" and "gosh how can we tell what the motivations might be" games... like, we have a group openly claiming responsibility for the attack here and people want to play the "how can we really know anything?" crap. C'mon.
- erk__ 4y ago
  Yeah it does imply that, but that is not the same as a confirmation that they, or someone in their group, are behind the attack. It is a motive, but there is no smoking gun. And it seems that the police have been in contact with the person and saw no reason to arrest them, but they did not expand of why they did not, which I think is a separate issue. Hopefully they will be able to find the people behind this attack though. And if it turns out to be the person above I hope they will be stuck down with both terror and hate crime.
  - PuppyTailWags 4y ago
    Additionally, this literally just happened, so for all we know police are just erring on the side of caution by holding maximum cards to their chests while "what the fuck even happened" is still being resolved. That being said, I also wouldn't give too much faith to the police. Police as an institution have been historically LGBTQ-unfriendly, and have perpetrated anti-LGBTQ violence on an institutional level in the past.
version_five 4y ago
I read it just now and I didn't get any impression they did it or knew who did it, just as you say they they were happy. For many people, myself included, who grew up in the country, the power going out is not a big deal, and was a pretty regular occurrence. I say this not to downplay it, but because it's easy to see how someone could see the power go out while something they didn't approve of was happening, and feel happy about it, without really considering how big of a deal the outage is for people in the city. I could be wrong of course, but the most single explanation is that this person just saw it as karma, not that they somehow knew something
- BoorishBears 4y ago
  "The power is out and I know why" doesn't give you an impression? I guess I'd cross off "detective" as fall back career
  - busterarm 4y ago
    If you take nutters off the internet at face value then you should. Most crimes that make the news have a few dozen nutjobs calling in claiming responsibility. People will go to great lengths to get attention. And we're already talking about social media posts here...
    - anigbrowl 4y ago
      The person who posted that isn't just some random nutter, though. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emily-rainey-fort-bragg-captain-resigngs-washington-rally-army-investigating/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emily-rainey-fort-bragg-captain...
      - TheGhostOfBoris 4y ago
        Au contraire After reading that article, I do think they qualify for the epithet "nutter".
        4y ago
drewcon 4y ago
That thread was a hot mess of speculation turning some yahoos off the hip Facebooks post into some conspiracy about shutting down a drag show? I’ll wait for some actual investigation before jumping to conclusions.

by erk__ 4y ago

paulmd 4y ago

"the power is out and I know why" implies advance knowledge of the attack at the least, and most likely their involvement in planning/coordination. why else would she know? Also, we shouldn't mince words here, this is a terrorist attack on civilian infrastructure for political ends. If this had been done by islamists, we'd call it as such. Instead we play the "gosh well she technically didn't say she did it" and "gosh how can we tell what the motivations might be" games... like, we have a group openly claiming responsibility for the attack here and people want to play the "how can we really know anything?" crap. C'mon.

erk__ 4y ago
Yeah it does imply that, but that is not the same as a confirmation that they, or someone in their group, are behind the attack. It is a motive, but there is no smoking gun. And it seems that the police have been in contact with the person and saw no reason to arrest them, but they did not expand of why they did not, which I think is a separate issue. Hopefully they will be able to find the people behind this attack though. And if it turns out to be the person above I hope they will be stuck down with both terror and hate crime.
- PuppyTailWags 4y ago
  Additionally, this literally just happened, so for all we know police are just erring on the side of caution by holding maximum cards to their chests while "what the fuck even happened" is still being resolved. That being said, I also wouldn't give too much faith to the police. Police as an institution have been historically LGBTQ-unfriendly, and have perpetrated anti-LGBTQ violence on an institutional level in the past.

version_five 4y ago

I read it just now and I didn't get any impression they did it or knew who did it, just as you say they they were happy. For many people, myself included, who grew up in the country, the power going out is not a big deal, and was a pretty regular occurrence. I say this not to downplay it, but because it's easy to see how someone could see the power go out while something they didn't approve of was happening, and feel happy about it, without really considering how big of a deal the outage is for people in the city. I could be wrong of course, but the most single explanation is that this person just saw it as karma, not that they somehow knew something

BoorishBears 4y ago
"The power is out and I know why" doesn't give you an impression? I guess I'd cross off "detective" as fall back career
- busterarm 4y ago
  If you take nutters off the internet at face value then you should. Most crimes that make the news have a few dozen nutjobs calling in claiming responsibility. People will go to great lengths to get attention. And we're already talking about social media posts here...
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    The person who posted that isn't just some random nutter, though. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emily-rainey-fort-bragg-captain-resigngs-washington-rally-army-investigating/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emily-rainey-fort-bragg-captain...
    - TheGhostOfBoris 4y ago
      Au contraire After reading that article, I do think they qualify for the epithet "nutter".
      - 4y ago

drewcon 4y ago

That thread was a hot mess of speculation turning some yahoos off the hip Facebooks post into some conspiracy about shutting down a drag show? I’ll wait for some actual investigation before jumping to conclusions.