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Of course bad people or orgs don’t self identify as such. That makes no logical sense in the real world. And in other cases people do things for political reaso

Of course bad people or orgs don’t self identify as such. That makes no logical sense in the real world. And in other cases people do things for political reasons. Your responses remind me of Joe Rogan saying people like Ron DeSantis are good people trying to give people freedom because that’s what Desantis told Joe to his face. You’ve shown your true colors wrt libsoftiktok. This is one of countless examples of the hate libsoftiktok spews. It’s not hard to come by: https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banned/ https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banne.... I should not have kept holding out hope you came in good faith.

jessaustin 4y ago
No thinking person cares about "libs of tiktok". Either the account itself, or the "libs" the account "exposes". Stop being distracted by ephemeral personalities. Care more about real things. "Hate", and far less the pale imitation of hate you claim to care about, is not a real thing.
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  What does it matter if a thinking person cares or not. What matters is millions of people do care. People who vote. I’ll let my transgender friends know they shouldn’t worry about the hate that comes their way because it isn’t real. I suspect the people who have had death threats and such thrown at them because of the account don’t feel the same way you do.
  - noxer 4y ago
    The account re-posts what other people voluntarily put on the internet. I'm not aware of any self produced content. You can question if its ethically appropriate to re-post these stuff as it frequently seems to be from people with severe mental problems. The claim however that people get death threats because of that account is silly. If something causes people to send death threats then if more people see it it would result in more death threats but that is not the fault of whoever made it visible. If this is the hill you want to die on then you should advocate for total censorship of everything since everything could trigger some unstable or evil person to send out death threats. So then then question here is why do you write comments on HN? It's dangerous! Your posts and the posts you help push could increase the number of death threats being send. I'm sure you dont care about that at all. You write and post whatever you want and feel zero responsibility for other peoples irrational (re)actions. Obviously that is how it should be.
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      Libsoftiktok pushes narratives. Spins stories. It lies. It does not just forward messages. All your arguments are based on the false premise that libsoftiktok is some innocent reposter. Which then is what all your attacks on me hinge on. > if this is the hill you want to do die on… > So then then question here is why do you write comments… To make it clear. People have gotten threats because of the way libsoftiktok has editorialized stories. The moral bankruptcy is squarely on the account. The pseudo-intellectual attacks you’re doing are weird. Changing the argument to pretend I’m upset that any one can be triggered by anything is weird. Pretending libsoftiktok is not an anti-lgbtq hate account is weird. Supporting hatred is weird.
      - noxer 4y ago
        You just say things but provide zero evidence. I can simply go look what that account posts and I did exactly that and it is in fact re-posts of stupid tiktoks form deranged people. No one questions that they have a bias or push a narrative by selecting what they re-post. That is literally what every person on the internet does. Yet they are not in any way responsible legally or ethically for any threats someone else sends out "because" of them. Just like if someone would send a threats to libsoftiktok because of what you wrote here. Clearly you would not be responsible for that. >Pretending libsoftiktok is not an anti-lgbtq hate account is weird. Supporting hatred is weird. I never said any of that. You seem so emotional bout it you make up stuff. I could not care less what they are anti about. My whole point was that they are not responsible for the action of others. There is no incitement for such actions. I dont support hatred I support logic. Blaming someone for the action of others is illogical and probably a result of your emotional involvement rather than rational thought. You can only blame that account for what that account actually did. I highly doubt it is sending out threats because then it would have been deleted.
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        Taylor Lorenz wrote an article. I assumed whomever I was speaking with has also read it or knows of it. Only going off the article isn’t zero evidence. > Clearly you would not be responsible for that. Because I am not an influential propaganda mouth piece. Also I did not direct any one toward any one else nor am I saying some wild accusation like saying any one is a groomer. I also am in no way directing any one to have libsoftiktok or any one else “cancelled”. > You seem so emotional bout it you make up stuff. Yes, this is such a good faith reading of my comments…

jessaustin 4y ago

No thinking person cares about "libs of tiktok". Either the account itself, or the "libs" the account "exposes". Stop being distracted by ephemeral personalities. Care more about real things. "Hate", and far less the pale imitation of hate you claim to care about, is not a real thing.

skinnymuch 4y ago
What does it matter if a thinking person cares or not. What matters is millions of people do care. People who vote. I’ll let my transgender friends know they shouldn’t worry about the hate that comes their way because it isn’t real. I suspect the people who have had death threats and such thrown at them because of the account don’t feel the same way you do.
- noxer 4y ago
  The account re-posts what other people voluntarily put on the internet. I'm not aware of any self produced content. You can question if its ethically appropriate to re-post these stuff as it frequently seems to be from people with severe mental problems. The claim however that people get death threats because of that account is silly. If something causes people to send death threats then if more people see it it would result in more death threats but that is not the fault of whoever made it visible. If this is the hill you want to die on then you should advocate for total censorship of everything since everything could trigger some unstable or evil person to send out death threats. So then then question here is why do you write comments on HN? It's dangerous! Your posts and the posts you help push could increase the number of death threats being send. I'm sure you dont care about that at all. You write and post whatever you want and feel zero responsibility for other peoples irrational (re)actions. Obviously that is how it should be.
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    Libsoftiktok pushes narratives. Spins stories. It lies. It does not just forward messages. All your arguments are based on the false premise that libsoftiktok is some innocent reposter. Which then is what all your attacks on me hinge on. > if this is the hill you want to do die on… > So then then question here is why do you write comments… To make it clear. People have gotten threats because of the way libsoftiktok has editorialized stories. The moral bankruptcy is squarely on the account. The pseudo-intellectual attacks you’re doing are weird. Changing the argument to pretend I’m upset that any one can be triggered by anything is weird. Pretending libsoftiktok is not an anti-lgbtq hate account is weird. Supporting hatred is weird.
    - noxer 4y ago
      You just say things but provide zero evidence. I can simply go look what that account posts and I did exactly that and it is in fact re-posts of stupid tiktoks form deranged people. No one questions that they have a bias or push a narrative by selecting what they re-post. That is literally what every person on the internet does. Yet they are not in any way responsible legally or ethically for any threats someone else sends out "because" of them. Just like if someone would send a threats to libsoftiktok because of what you wrote here. Clearly you would not be responsible for that. >Pretending libsoftiktok is not an anti-lgbtq hate account is weird. Supporting hatred is weird. I never said any of that. You seem so emotional bout it you make up stuff. I could not care less what they are anti about. My whole point was that they are not responsible for the action of others. There is no incitement for such actions. I dont support hatred I support logic. Blaming someone for the action of others is illogical and probably a result of your emotional involvement rather than rational thought. You can only blame that account for what that account actually did. I highly doubt it is sending out threats because then it would have been deleted.
      - skinnymuch 4y ago
        Taylor Lorenz wrote an article. I assumed whomever I was speaking with has also read it or knows of it. Only going off the article isn’t zero evidence. > Clearly you would not be responsible for that. Because I am not an influential propaganda mouth piece. Also I did not direct any one toward any one else nor am I saying some wild accusation like saying any one is a groomer. I also am in no way directing any one to have libsoftiktok or any one else “cancelled”. > You seem so emotional bout it you make up stuff. Yes, this is such a good faith reading of my comments…