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> an attempt to sneak in a plank of an argument to support some repugnant conclusion Why should that be a concern? Are you afraid you'll be forced to accept th

> an attempt to sneak in a plank of an argument to support some repugnant conclusion Why should that be a concern? Are you afraid you'll be forced to accept their conclusion?

revolvingocelot 4y ago
>Are you afraid you'll be forced to accept their conclusion? As per the great-great-grandparent post [0], the conclusion under discussion is based on a premise they just made up and that both speakers "know is wrong". Why should I be afraid I'll be forced to accept their conclusion? Is that a property of arguments using made-up premises? I was under the impression that such arguments were bullshit. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33855071 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33855071
- seti0Cha 4y ago
  Don't ask me, you're the one who posed the concern that they may trying to stealthily introduce a repugnant idea. I was asking why you would need to be concerned. I assumed you were suggesting it was a reason not to engage in counterfactual arguments. From your response I guess it was just a non sequeter.
  - revolvingocelot 4y ago
    Why shouldn't I ask you? You're the one who asked me whether I was afraid I'd be forced to accept some repugnant conclusion based on false premises. Who else could I ask but you? I think I've been pretty clear in my desire to not engage in bullshit arguments in which people are allowed to make up premises; you're the one who framed it as a "concern" I might be having. It seemed like you were initially suggesting that that was unreasonable. From your response I guess it was just a non sequitur. What's a "non sequeter", by the way?
    - seti0Cha 4y ago
      > I think I've been pretty clear in my desire to not engage in bullshit arguments > What's a "non sequeter", by the way? Lol. Yeah, very clear.
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      - revolvingocelot 4y ago
        Admitting that you're engaging in a bullshit argument takes a big person, but it takes an even bigger person to not bother with spellcheck when it's right there on the computer you're using to make posts.

> an attempt to sneak in a plank of an argument to support some repugnant conclusion Why should that be a concern? Are you afraid you'll be forced to accept their conclusion?

revolvingocelot 4y ago

>Are you afraid you'll be forced to accept their conclusion? As per the great-great-grandparent post [0], the conclusion under discussion is based on a premise they just made up and that both speakers "know is wrong". Why should I be afraid I'll be forced to accept their conclusion? Is that a property of arguments using made-up premises? I was under the impression that such arguments were bullshit. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33855071 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33855071

seti0Cha 4y ago
Don't ask me, you're the one who posed the concern that they may trying to stealthily introduce a repugnant idea. I was asking why you would need to be concerned. I assumed you were suggesting it was a reason not to engage in counterfactual arguments. From your response I guess it was just a non sequeter.
- revolvingocelot 4y ago
  Why shouldn't I ask you? You're the one who asked me whether I was afraid I'd be forced to accept some repugnant conclusion based on false premises. Who else could I ask but you? I think I've been pretty clear in my desire to not engage in bullshit arguments in which people are allowed to make up premises; you're the one who framed it as a "concern" I might be having. It seemed like you were initially suggesting that that was unreasonable. From your response I guess it was just a non sequitur. What's a "non sequeter", by the way?
  - seti0Cha 4y ago
    > I think I've been pretty clear in my desire to not engage in bullshit arguments > What's a "non sequeter", by the way? Lol. Yeah, very clear.
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    - revolvingocelot 4y ago
      Admitting that you're engaging in a bullshit argument takes a big person, but it takes an even bigger person to not bother with spellcheck when it's right there on the computer you're using to make posts.