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Yeah, if your goal is to find adventurous content in the avant garde sense there's no question the internet has enabled far, far, more than what existed on tv i

Yeah, if your goal is to find adventurous content in the avant garde sense there's no question the internet has enabled far, far, more than what existed on tv in the 70s. Also it's just incomparable how quality vs price has changed in camera equipment and related. You can put together a setup that rivals broadcast quality for about the price of an economy car. We live in a golden age of independent productions being much more affordable. So celebrate the Moog dancers if you like, but I think this subtext that we've lost something or become less adventurous totally preposterous.

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themodelplumber 4y ago
With all due respect to the Moog Dancers--It's interesting that some people still think of culture as expressed by things that large numbers of people were forced to watch, on account of there being nothing else good on.
2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
> We live in a golden age of independent productions being much more affordable. I'm torn on this. I suppose it's a beautiful thing to enable more creators but we are also awash in garbage content with BS at scale.
- incone123 4y ago
  Only online. If you prefer to leave curation to others then you still have TV
  - anigbrowl 4y ago
    I think you're missing the point that it's much harder to find anything weird on TV than it used to be. There's too much money involved so its all marketing, syndication or franchises now.
    - olyjohn 4y ago
      Back when I had cable, all I needed to do to see weird shit was turn on the local public access channel.
    - incone123 4y ago
      In that case there's gap for curated non TV weird. Could be filled by blogs, sub Reddits ? This is where I'd expect to find self funded stuff that only circulated on Vimeo or YouTube. Streaming is still I think going to be the middle ground that can deliver somewhat weird but with a good production budget.
    - taneq 4y ago
      TV isn’t where you look for weird, though. ;)
- insanitybit 4y ago
  Risk is inherent to adventurous content.
drewcoo 4y ago
> subtext that we've lost something or become less adventurous totally preposterous This was shown where everyone might stumble across it. That's completely unlike today's insular interest bubbles. The unspoken bubbles are a loss for the larger group. The bubbles make us less adventurous.
x3haloed 4y ago
I think the point is that creative experimentation has really been pushed to the far edges. You would never see something so daringly unusual on broadcast television these days. What’s left of broadcast television, anyway. Broad media consumption all just formulaic and uninspired. The 60s and 70s were just full of weird, exploratory, boundary-bending shit, which is what makes them a time of such progress.
- seti0Cha 4y ago
  It may seem that way to you now, but they were just expressing the pop culture of the time. The Moog dancers were not that different from the dance numbers of the musicals in the 50s, just updated to what was then modern sensibilities and dance on television was pretty common back then.

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themodelplumber 4y ago

With all due respect to the Moog Dancers--It's interesting that some people still think of culture as expressed by things that large numbers of people were forced to watch, on account of there being nothing else good on.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

> We live in a golden age of independent productions being much more affordable. I'm torn on this. I suppose it's a beautiful thing to enable more creators but we are also awash in garbage content with BS at scale.

incone123 4y ago
Only online. If you prefer to leave curation to others then you still have TV
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  I think you're missing the point that it's much harder to find anything weird on TV than it used to be. There's too much money involved so its all marketing, syndication or franchises now.
  - olyjohn 4y ago
    Back when I had cable, all I needed to do to see weird shit was turn on the local public access channel.
  - incone123 4y ago
    In that case there's gap for curated non TV weird. Could be filled by blogs, sub Reddits ? This is where I'd expect to find self funded stuff that only circulated on Vimeo or YouTube. Streaming is still I think going to be the middle ground that can deliver somewhat weird but with a good production budget.
  - taneq 4y ago
    TV isn’t where you look for weird, though. ;)
insanitybit 4y ago
Risk is inherent to adventurous content.

drewcoo 4y ago

> subtext that we've lost something or become less adventurous totally preposterous This was shown where everyone might stumble across it. That's completely unlike today's insular interest bubbles. The unspoken bubbles are a loss for the larger group. The bubbles make us less adventurous.

x3haloed 4y ago

I think the point is that creative experimentation has really been pushed to the far edges. You would never see something so daringly unusual on broadcast television these days. What’s left of broadcast television, anyway. Broad media consumption all just formulaic and uninspired. The 60s and 70s were just full of weird, exploratory, boundary-bending shit, which is what makes them a time of such progress.

seti0Cha 4y ago
It may seem that way to you now, but they were just expressing the pop culture of the time. The Moog dancers were not that different from the dance numbers of the musicals in the 50s, just updated to what was then modern sensibilities and dance on television was pretty common back then.