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Can you provide more details about these three things? - trackpad - your two sentences are very vague. Can you navigate with two fingers in a web browser? How

Can you provide more details about these three things? - trackpad - your two sentences are very vague. Can you navigate with two fingers in a web browser? How is text selection? Or selecting a sentence out of a long paragraph, etc? In my experience nothing matches Apple in terms of precision and accuracy, but maybe Lenovo finally caught up recently. - screen: I use the built in display quite a lot. The color on a MacBook Pro is really nice. How does the Lenovo compare? - battery life: how many hours do you actually get? Your description is vauge and can be anything from 3 hours to 40 hours.

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ditsuke 4y ago
> - trackpad - your two sentences are very vague. Can you navigate with two fingers in a web browser? How is text selection? Or selecting a sentence out of a long paragraph, etc? In my experience nothing matches Apple in terms of precision and accuracy, but maybe Lenovo finally caught up recently. I use the LG Gram 2022. The trackpad is nothing short of Amazing on Linux -- everything you expect works 2/3/4 finger gestures, panning; the scrolling however can use some tuning on Gnome.
jraph 4y ago
I'm using the X1 Carbon Gen 9 with openSUSE Tumbleweed (Plasma) > Can you navigate with two fingers in a web browser? On Firefox, two fingers to the left does previous, two fingers to the right does next (if you are not in a horizontally scrollable area, in which case it scrolls). Two fingers to the top or the bottom scrolls (pixel perfect). Kinetic scroll works. Pinch to zoom works (at long last!! I think it started working a year ago or something). > How is text selection? Or selecting a sentence out of a long paragraph, etc? I select whatever I want to select with ease. I go to the first word I want to select, double-tap, move to the last word. The text autoscrolls if I go to an edge if it's a long chunk of text. Triple tap to select entire paragraphs. D&D works quite well too. I'm very happy with the precision with both my HP Elitebook 840 G6 and My Carbon X1. They both have a huge, reliable touchpad. I've never tried a Mac seriously though. > how many hours do you actually get? 10-11h if I pay attention. 6-7h easily. (i7 and 32G of RAM). I hope it will improve. The touchscreen on both machines is surprisingly usable and useful. Both machine are quiet, and they are totally silent if I'm just typing or browsing the web. The fans can spin up during a video call or compile something for a long time, but that can be prevented if needed by forcing the powersave mode using KDE's UI for this.
- FunnyLookinHat 4y ago
  +1 to all of this, and adding in that I use the Gen 10 on Pop OS and it works just as well. The default trackpoint accel is a bit much for me, so I just have this set to run on login: > xinput set-prop 'TPPS/2 Elan TrackPoint' 'libinput Accel Speed' -0.55
- Hellion 4y ago
  Apple has really set the standard on battery life - 10-11 hours would be considered on the short end for any modem Mac laptop. My air performs on par with some high end ultrabooks, yet easily does 12+ hours on a single charge. I usually have the brightness turned up quite a bit as well. It’s stunning how far apple is ahead of the pack right now, I really hope the others catch up
  - elabajaba 4y ago
    AMD's 5000 and 6000 series CPUs are much more power efficient (6000 series being near m1 levels of efficiency) than Intel's current offerings. Linux also tends to be quite a bit worse for battery life than Windows.
    - yaantc 4y ago
      > Linux also tends to be quite a bit worse for battery life than Windows. With a manual stock distro installation maybe, as the defaults are very conservative. But just install the "tlp" package (the laptop project) and the situation flips. At least that's my experience at work based on Dell Latitude laptops and Thinkpads T before. My battery life is way above my Windows using colleagues, and my fans are mostly off (unless big compilation or test runs) instead of mostly on. Of course it's very likely due to the anti-virus, but that's part of the corporate Windows experience nowadays.
      - aussiesnack 4y ago
        Currently f/t linux user, been using it on and off on multiple laptops for 2 decades. Not once, regardless of tlp and other tweaks and many hours of twiddling and forum-reading and keeping stats for weeks on end, has Linux ever approached Windows' battery life on the same machine. I don't know how to relate that to your experience, other than to say that (1) I'm closer to comparing like with like (same user, same machine) and (2) every other linux user I've personally known has found the same as me. Given the appalling and deteriorating state of desktop OS's, it seems unlikely I'll ever use anything other than Linux again. But I don't believe it will ever catch up with either Windows or MacOS on battery life. I just accept that as something I"ll have to live with.
qumpis 4y ago
I've been using XPS 15 for many years and always felt that the trackpad experience is better (definitely in terms in accuracy and precission), and my encounters with partner's M1 air always make me question if I'm doing 'it' wrong (even after playing with the laptop for a whole day). This frustration once led me to search for turning off the acceleration setting, which, last I searched, wasn't easily tweakable. Anyone shares similar feeling when it comes to the trackpad?
hunterloftis 4y ago
Happy to: Can you navigate with two fingers in a web browser? Yes. I've also been underwhelmed by non-Apple touchpads until using this. I'm not sure how much of the experience is hardware and how much is Fedora 36. How is text selection? Identical to my Macbook: move to start of selection with pointer finger, press on touchpad with thumb, move to end of selection with pointer, release thumb. Screen: I'm not sure exactly how to answer this; I have several Macbooks and I agree their screens are nice. I like the Thinkpad's screen more for development (it seems to be less glossy/give better contrast independent of external light) whereas I think the Macbook screens look better at broader angles (for example, a couple of people watching a movie, looking at the screen diagonally). Battery life: I'll have to run it off charger for more than a day to see when it finally dies. So far I spent one day roaming around without connecting it, during which it was under constant use: programming during the day and streaming at night. Something on the order of 8 hours.

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ditsuke 4y ago

> - trackpad - your two sentences are very vague. Can you navigate with two fingers in a web browser? How is text selection? Or selecting a sentence out of a long paragraph, etc? In my experience nothing matches Apple in terms of precision and accuracy, but maybe Lenovo finally caught up recently. I use the LG Gram 2022. The trackpad is nothing short of Amazing on Linux -- everything you expect works 2/3/4 finger gestures, panning; the scrolling however can use some tuning on Gnome.

jraph 4y ago

I'm using the X1 Carbon Gen 9 with openSUSE Tumbleweed (Plasma) > Can you navigate with two fingers in a web browser? On Firefox, two fingers to the left does previous, two fingers to the right does next (if you are not in a horizontally scrollable area, in which case it scrolls). Two fingers to the top or the bottom scrolls (pixel perfect). Kinetic scroll works. Pinch to zoom works (at long last!! I think it started working a year ago or something). > How is text selection? Or selecting a sentence out of a long paragraph, etc? I select whatever I want to select with ease. I go to the first word I want to select, double-tap, move to the last word. The text autoscrolls if I go to an edge if it's a long chunk of text. Triple tap to select entire paragraphs. D&D works quite well too. I'm very happy with the precision with both my HP Elitebook 840 G6 and My Carbon X1. They both have a huge, reliable touchpad. I've never tried a Mac seriously though. > how many hours do you actually get? 10-11h if I pay attention. 6-7h easily. (i7 and 32G of RAM). I hope it will improve. The touchscreen on both machines is surprisingly usable and useful. Both machine are quiet, and they are totally silent if I'm just typing or browsing the web. The fans can spin up during a video call or compile something for a long time, but that can be prevented if needed by forcing the powersave mode using KDE's UI for this.

FunnyLookinHat 4y ago
+1 to all of this, and adding in that I use the Gen 10 on Pop OS and it works just as well. The default trackpoint accel is a bit much for me, so I just have this set to run on login: > xinput set-prop 'TPPS/2 Elan TrackPoint' 'libinput Accel Speed' -0.55
Hellion 4y ago
Apple has really set the standard on battery life - 10-11 hours would be considered on the short end for any modem Mac laptop. My air performs on par with some high end ultrabooks, yet easily does 12+ hours on a single charge. I usually have the brightness turned up quite a bit as well. It’s stunning how far apple is ahead of the pack right now, I really hope the others catch up
- elabajaba 4y ago
  AMD's 5000 and 6000 series CPUs are much more power efficient (6000 series being near m1 levels of efficiency) than Intel's current offerings. Linux also tends to be quite a bit worse for battery life than Windows.
  - yaantc 4y ago
    > Linux also tends to be quite a bit worse for battery life than Windows. With a manual stock distro installation maybe, as the defaults are very conservative. But just install the "tlp" package (the laptop project) and the situation flips. At least that's my experience at work based on Dell Latitude laptops and Thinkpads T before. My battery life is way above my Windows using colleagues, and my fans are mostly off (unless big compilation or test runs) instead of mostly on. Of course it's very likely due to the anti-virus, but that's part of the corporate Windows experience nowadays.
    - aussiesnack 4y ago
      Currently f/t linux user, been using it on and off on multiple laptops for 2 decades. Not once, regardless of tlp and other tweaks and many hours of twiddling and forum-reading and keeping stats for weeks on end, has Linux ever approached Windows' battery life on the same machine. I don't know how to relate that to your experience, other than to say that (1) I'm closer to comparing like with like (same user, same machine) and (2) every other linux user I've personally known has found the same as me. Given the appalling and deteriorating state of desktop OS's, it seems unlikely I'll ever use anything other than Linux again. But I don't believe it will ever catch up with either Windows or MacOS on battery life. I just accept that as something I"ll have to live with.

qumpis 4y ago

I've been using XPS 15 for many years and always felt that the trackpad experience is better (definitely in terms in accuracy and precission), and my encounters with partner's M1 air always make me question if I'm doing 'it' wrong (even after playing with the laptop for a whole day). This frustration once led me to search for turning off the acceleration setting, which, last I searched, wasn't easily tweakable. Anyone shares similar feeling when it comes to the trackpad?

hunterloftis 4y ago

Happy to: Can you navigate with two fingers in a web browser? Yes. I've also been underwhelmed by non-Apple touchpads until using this. I'm not sure how much of the experience is hardware and how much is Fedora 36. How is text selection? Identical to my Macbook: move to start of selection with pointer finger, press on touchpad with thumb, move to end of selection with pointer, release thumb. Screen: I'm not sure exactly how to answer this; I have several Macbooks and I agree their screens are nice. I like the Thinkpad's screen more for development (it seems to be less glossy/give better contrast independent of external light) whereas I think the Macbook screens look better at broader angles (for example, a couple of people watching a movie, looking at the screen diagonally). Battery life: I'll have to run it off charger for more than a day to see when it finally dies. So far I spent one day roaming around without connecting it, during which it was under constant use: programming during the day and streaming at night. Something on the order of 8 hours.