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I remember US army like 10 years ago compared different fabrics and have found eVent was performing significantly better than Gore Tex. Does ShakeDry really be

by _0w8t 4y ago

I remember US army like 10 years ago compared different fabrics and have found eVent was performing significantly better than Gore Tex. Does ShakeDry really better than alternative according to some realistic tests?

bsimpson 4y ago
Obligatory FortNine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCdQfbLw7o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCdQfbLw7o For those who don't know, FortNine is a YouTube channel from a Canadian motorcycle gear seller. Their producer has a physics background and makes excellent videos. Like xkcd, there's a relevant video for so many things even tangentially related to motorcycling.
paulcole 4y ago
ShakeDry is much better than eVent in my experience running in very wet weather. eVent is fine for shoes (I’m pretty sure it’s what Altra uses in the weatherproof Lone Peaks) but for both weight and performance, ShakeDry is the better jacket material. I’ve spent way too much money on running gear over the years and ShakeDry laps the field in waterproof + breathable. To be honest, I don’t particularly care what performs best according to research. I’m the one wearing it while running and ShakeDry is best for me.
- flybrand 4y ago
  Did you work with POLARTEC Neoshell or the North Face Futurelight? There were some bike garments made of similar materials.
  - paulcole 4y ago
    I’ve had Neoshell shoes and they were fine as well. But never worn anything w/ that fabric or Futurelight. But from the branding that is very alpine/mountaineering focused, I’d guess that Futurelight is going to be too warm/heavy to be practical for running.
    - flybrand 4y ago
      Sughoi (sp?) had Neoshell bike gear and new composites often focus on higher asp markets like mountaineering before they go into running, etc. These products are about breathable water barrier, not about warmth. They will come!
  - wyre 4y ago
    Neoshell and Futurelight are 3L fabrics so are going to be more similar to eVent than shakedry.
    - flybrand 4y ago
      It seems like you’re saying that all monolayer products are better than all composite layers. I would agree that optimal PTFE is a mini layer, bc it’s got such poor air perm. However, the ‘working’ layer in futurelight and Neoshell has about 1/3 the material as PTFE and much higher void volume, making for higher flow rates. It’s worth checking out.

by _0w8t 4y ago

bsimpson 4y ago

Obligatory FortNine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCdQfbLw7o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtCdQfbLw7o For those who don't know, FortNine is a YouTube channel from a Canadian motorcycle gear seller. Their producer has a physics background and makes excellent videos. Like xkcd, there's a relevant video for so many things even tangentially related to motorcycling.

paulcole 4y ago

ShakeDry is much better than eVent in my experience running in very wet weather. eVent is fine for shoes (I’m pretty sure it’s what Altra uses in the weatherproof Lone Peaks) but for both weight and performance, ShakeDry is the better jacket material. I’ve spent way too much money on running gear over the years and ShakeDry laps the field in waterproof + breathable. To be honest, I don’t particularly care what performs best according to research. I’m the one wearing it while running and ShakeDry is best for me.

flybrand 4y ago
Did you work with POLARTEC Neoshell or the North Face Futurelight? There were some bike garments made of similar materials.
- paulcole 4y ago
  I’ve had Neoshell shoes and they were fine as well. But never worn anything w/ that fabric or Futurelight. But from the branding that is very alpine/mountaineering focused, I’d guess that Futurelight is going to be too warm/heavy to be practical for running.
  - flybrand 4y ago
    Sughoi (sp?) had Neoshell bike gear and new composites often focus on higher asp markets like mountaineering before they go into running, etc. These products are about breathable water barrier, not about warmth. They will come!
- wyre 4y ago
  Neoshell and Futurelight are 3L fabrics so are going to be more similar to eVent than shakedry.
  - flybrand 4y ago
    It seems like you’re saying that all monolayer products are better than all composite layers. I would agree that optimal PTFE is a mini layer, bc it’s got such poor air perm. However, the ‘working’ layer in futurelight and Neoshell has about 1/3 the material as PTFE and much higher void volume, making for higher flow rates. It’s worth checking out.