You're moving the goal-posts. I was talking about new phones, not second hand one, as many people prefer buying new for the full 2 year warranty and that added

You're moving the goal-posts. I was talking about new phones, not second hand one, as many people prefer buying new for the full 2 year warranty and that added peace of mind. A basic new SE is 550 Euros, far away from the ~300 Euros price bracket. Also, I haven't found used iPhones to buy directly from Apple in EU. Maybe you can point me in the right direction. I tried to get my mom a 2020 SE since that's the phone my employer gave me and she hated the tiny, dim, low resolution display but she loves her Samsung A52 though, with its big and bright OLED display while being cheaper than the SE. Also battery life is longer on her A52 than on my work SE. Different people have different requirements for a smartphone that go beyond the brand and reputation (display size, brightness, USB-C, etc). iPhone SE is not a one-size fits all solution for everyone.