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GoDaddy is default registrar for Google Apps Domains
Maybe Google can rethink their selection and make a change? It is strange to oppose SOPA on the one hand and use the services of one of its proponents at the same time. #justsayin
- loso 15y agoI don't think Google will be changing their business dealings with Godaddy anytime soon. Google has a business relationship with KKR (the new owners of GoDaddy). They are investing 94 million on a KKR solar farm project. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/google-kkr-invest-california-solar-project-15196825#.TvTr9PlLPex http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/google-kkr-invest...
- DiabloD3 15y agoGiven the number of Google people who regularly read HN, I suspect this is already in the process of being fixed.
- slig 15y agoYeah, Google has been showing a lot of action against SOPA.
- ch0wn 15y agoI suppose changing a registration partner won't be as easy as transferring a bunch of domains, though.
- tankenmate 15y agoIt would probably take the larger part of 7 days. Any registrar worth their salt will have an EPP interface. The only thing that will take a while to set up is the payment / bank accounts.
- methodin 15y agoAssuming they didn't sign a contract?
- billpatrianakos 15y agoFixed? You know, I get the whole backlash against GoDaddy and it's totally justified but these posts that basically demand all businesses switch registrars or imply that any company using GoDaddy as their registrar are somehow sympathetic to them is nuts to me. I know they don't outright say it but that's the subtext I'm getting. I hope everyone boycotts GoDaddy and transfers to another provider but we have to understand that something like this may not be feasible for some companies right now. Google may have a long term deal they have to finish out. In addition transferring the thousands of domains they have costs money for not just the transfers but they also have to get people to work on it and provide customer support as there will be many people who will need to know why this is happening and how they'll be affected. GoDaddy has sucked even before they came out in support of SOPA, there's no doubt about that and the transfer/boycott movement is justified but let's please not put the entire focus on GD and remember the situations some companies are in can make it harder to transfer their domains. Also, using GoDaddy != support for SOPA just as using a gas powered car doesn't automatically make you a global warming denier. Circumstances just don't always allow for people to be idealists.
- sunchild 15y agoGoogle really ought to distance itself from GoDaddy. It reflects poorly on them, and I'm quite sure that Google has enough leverage to do whatever it likes in this case.
- grandalf 15y agoWhy did Google ever do a deal with GoDaddy in the first place? Godaddy's UI alone should have been reason enough not to.
- billpatrianakos 15y agoShould they really distance themselves? I'm not taking a stance but posing the question. The thing is, sometimes your business partners do something you don't agree with. Google will have to decide whether GoDaddy's support for SOPA is enough to sever a long standing business relationship. It's easy to say Google should stop doing business with them when we're talking about an issue that rouses such passionate opinions but we have to think about a few things first: First, who are we to know what's best for Google? If we're so smart why aren't we all running billion dollar companies? Secondly, if companies went about changing their businesses just to suit a noisy minority there'd be problems. As it stands it seems like the people making the biggest deal about this is our small developer community. Granted there are a lot of powerful people on our side but when you take the big picture into account we're just a noisy minority. So yeah, I would like them to distance themselves from GoDaddy like everyone else but should they? I also don't think leverage has any part in this. Google is already a registrar but there must be some good reason they use those 3rd parties. I don't think people are giving them enough credit here. They're looking at this one small detail of how Google does business and making broad, sweeping judgements.
- chernevik 15y agoGoogle must be very, very careful about throwing its weight around. They want to avoid drawing attention to their importance, or suggesting that they'd use it to impose their opinions.
- citricsquid 15y ago"benhuh @mattcutts indeed... now, ask Google to pressure GD. GD is Google's third-party registrar." "mattcutts @benhuh I think we use eNom too. But safe to assume people has passed this feedback on." http://twitter.com/#!/mattcutts/status/149988873726984192 http://twitter.com/#!/mattcutts/status/149988873726984192
- stuartjmoore 15y agoThey do use eNom as well, that's the one I chose when setting up my account.
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- stuartmemo 15y agoIs there any reason for Google not to become a registrar themselves?
- rmc 15y agoHassle? What's the benefit to them?
- steventruong 15y agoI could think of a few reasons out of the massive number of reasons why. For starters, its another service that ties user to the brand. While it probably won't be a huge money maker for them, there are tiny things that may be worth doing to help them leverage growth and not to mention more analytics.
- coob 15y agoHere is one reason why they will not: Larry Page is trying to focus the company, not make it do everything under the sun. See: Almost every extraneous service being cut.
- steventruong 15y agoI agree but arguably, you could say one of the focus is the cloud. Building an AWS competitor isn't necessary something they wouldn't consider in the future. They do have a DNS service, and they already do 3rd party registrations with Google App integrations for various things. None of those have been on the cut list. And I'm sure they have plans to continue pushing things forward for cloud services. Being a registrar and having services integrated with each other (see AWS) is an added benefit. I could be wrong and this is purely random thoughts out loud, but not everything should be viewed so narrowly or direct that you miss the big picture on where the focus is at and how you get there. It's still a possibility and none of us knows what Google has planned.
- dangrossman 15y agoThey wouldn't gain any new analytics. As a registrar, Google already has access to the root zone files, they can see what domains are being registered/dropped at every registrar. They already run public DNS servers too, so they don't need to get people to register domains with them and use them for DNS to see DNS activity.
- VMG 15y agoWhat I don't get about it - what does GoDaddy realistically have to gain from supporting SOPA?
- chernevik 15y agoOne guess: If Congress thinks GoDaddy is the sort of company that will help them manage all this unruly internet stuff, then that's the sort of company Congress wants around. Congressmen live and die by response to constituent concerns. If the folks get worked up about cyber-bullying or unsafe skateboard videos or kitten porn or whatever depredations those Internet freaks invent next, Congressmen want some avenue to Do Something. GoDaddy may get little from SOPA, but they could get a lot offering to help manage all of this . . .
- jwildeboer 15y agoMaybe they hope they will become default registrar for all the other proponents? Quite some big names on that list.
- sharmajai 15y agoThose big names don't make the internet, we do. They might be what 10^-googol% of the internet.
- lt 15y agoThey have been handling domain seizure orders: http://www.techspot.com/news/46481-judge-oks-private-domain-seizures-orders-search-engine-filtering.html http://www.techspot.com/news/46481-judge-oks-private-domain-... an injunction against the top-level domain name registry, directing it to change the registrar of record for the domain names to GoDaddy (!); an injunction telling GoDaddy to change the DNS data for the domain names so the domain names resolve to a site where a copy of the case documents are hosted (servingnotice.com/sdv/index.html);
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- davidw 15y agoI long ago got rid of my directly registered GoDaddy domains, but the Google Apps registered ones... can you switch to eNom? New domains I get through name.com and they offer you the option to set up Google Apps for your domain.
- SandB0x 15y agoLet's not pollute this place with hashtags.
- bdg 15y agoNo kidding. Hash tags need to die, this isn't twitter, and I don't come here for 100-character-long spam bursts of groupthink and newspeak.
- presidentx 15y agoChill. I have no problem with hashtags, and I don't think it's spam. I'm totally okay with it, and I have as much say as you do.
- throwaway88 15y agoThis is why HN has declined rapidly over the last year, and became a clone of Reddit, with the same groupthink circlejerking, etc. It's essentially become useless for people interested in intelligent hacker/startup topics. If you want a good community, whatever you do, don't have an open policy on membership and equal votes to everyone. That's a recipe to decline to idiocy pretty quickly. RIP HN. Sad to see you go.
- emehrkay 15y agoMaybe if it actually did something...
- ascendant 15y agoYou and all the people hating on hashtags are busy engaging in your own groupthink. How about you focus more on the content and less on the presentation?
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- RexRollman 15y agoPersonally, I am amazed that anyone stayed with GoDaddy after the Seclists.org debacle. I switched to Gandi at that point and I have been really happy with them so far.
- nick007 15y agoSeclists.org debacle? Link?
- nknight 15y agohttp://seclists.org/nmap-hackers/2007/0 http://seclists.org/nmap-hackers/2007/0 First hit for "seclists godaddy" on Google for me...
- mahmoudimus 15y agoOh my god, reading that made me envision SOPA passing. Where a company, like MySpace, deems that one page on a large well respected website, like seclists.org, aggravates them -- they can just dns block it and it is no longer accessible. Holy..
- Natsu 15y agoIt cuts both ways. What if someone with nothing to lose found some way to take out sony.com or whatever? I hope that will never be possible, and I bet anyone trying that would end up in jail, but you never know.
- uptown 15y agoIn a recent SOPA-like proceeding, a judge ordered GoDaddy to facilitate the seizure. http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111129/20471916928/court-effectively-pretends-sopa-already-exists-orders-domains-seized-de-linked-search.shtml http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111129/20471916928/court-...
- ctman 15y agodeleted my G+ account. Will not be buying another Android phone.
- JVirissimo 15y agoReally, you're not going to wait a few weeks and see if Google fixes things?
- billpatrianakos 15y agoWhat if they don't "fix" things? Is it then okay to go ahead and boycott Google? I would say no. I would still say even if they did nothing about this that dropping all Google support would still be throwing the baby out with the bath water. I'd honestly be happy if they put out a simple statement explaining why they're going to sever ties or continue doing business with GoDaddy and just honestly explain why. As a business owner I know that you can't really control some of the people you do business with and you really need to pick your battles. Google dropping GoDaddy because they hold an unpopular opinion, however wrong it is, would actually look sort of bad for Google. The guys who are fighting censorship (Google) just severed ties with a business partner because they have a differing opinion actually seems a bit like censorship itself. "If you don't agree with me then I'm going to punish you" is what that sounds like. In any case, its unfortunate that Google ended up doing business with them but Google couldn't possibly know this would happen when they first partnered with them and severing ties now just feels wrong to me.
- wnight 15y agoWhy do you love GoDaddy? You're in an absolute tither about people exercising their right to deal with a merchant of their choice. As for your argument about censoring the censors, it's daft.
- mdwrigh2 15y agoI think you threw the baby out with the bath water there. You've started boycotting Google, who's one of the most vocal opponents to SOPA, because one of the default options they give for domain registration for Google Apps accounts is GoDaddy, who supports SOPA.
- superasn 15y agoIs it just me or has the focus shifting from SOPA to GoDaddy (reddit too has the same trend). I'm as anti-GoDaddy as the next person but let's remember that calling your representative will help the cause more than punishing a domain registrar. Maybe if you run a popular website then informing your site visitors about the evil of the bill (like tumblr) can do much more to help the cause than moving your domain name to namecheap.
- _pius 15y agoI'm as anti-GoDaddy as the next person but let's remember that calling your representative will help the cause more than punishing a domain registrar. Are you sure about that?
- maratd 15y agoBingo. If you take out GoDaddy and a few others who either are or have potential to donate funds to election campaigns, those representatives will pay attention real quick. Much more effective than sending letters or calling.
- politician 15y agoIMO, do both, and mention that fact in your letter. "I will continue to boycott businesses that donate to your campaign because of your support for this legislation."
- billpatrianakos 15y agoThere's not enough of us to take out GoDaddy. I really can't be optimistic about this. But in all honesty I get the whole boycott as a way to raise awareness and support that but there seems to be an underlying theme to some people's comments of wanting to put GoDaddy completely out of business. I think that's just immature. GoDaddy may be wrong on this issue but they're free to take whatever stand they want and really they aren't the problem here. The real problem is this legislation. If SOPA passes then we're fucked and we'll look back and realize that focusing so much on GoDaddy didn't really matter. GoDaddy supporting it or not, if this passes its bad either way so let's be aware of this stuff but stop focusing so much on all the minutia
- thedeuce 15y agonot sure the big deal about this, google is a big company, there are bound to be a few thousand douches
- irunbackwards 15y agoIt's also the default registrar for SSL certificates on Windows Server 2011. :/
- Tallguy181 15y agoI was going to switch to Google Chrome. Just changed my mind. Please try not to do business with companies that support SOPA and their affiliates.