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Of course repressing oneself can lead to a better society. If pedophiles, people with violent urges etc are able to suppress their urges for example, don't you

Of course repressing oneself can lead to a better society. If pedophiles, people with violent urges etc are able to suppress their urges for example, don't you think that's a good thing? Should everyone just be acting out their id's desires unchecked?

mdp2021 4y ago
Very clearly the poster is talking about restraints caused by vocal sub-cultural shifts, not about pre-frontal abilities.
- malermeister 4y ago
  The two are interrelated. Human sacrifice used to be a common cultural practice in many parts of the world. In Europe, old men used to marry prebuscent teenagers. We suppressed those things through vocal cultural shifts.
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    Again: the OP is not condemning vocal cultural shifts that demand restraint of unreasonable behaviour. The OP is complaining about censorship.
    - malermeister 4y ago
      You say tomato, I say tomato.
- Barrin92 4y ago
  Given that the OP compared their situation to the morality police in Iran, where dissenters tend to be hung from cranes I'm not so sure what restraints they think they're living under. Few things are more cringeworthy than people in free Western countries pretending they're living in the Soviet Union. I say my honest opinion all the time. When people say this stuff, can we get a concrete example for something you "just can't say" ? I bet you five bucks I can guess the nature of that statement.
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    I personally do not have notable examples in my environment because of its specifics, but I have read a few interventions from Niall Ferguson (material from probably around 2018) about angry mobs impeding conferences of a "disliked" people (including his wife). Anyway, to the theoretical point: if you have a wave of some phenomenon (e.g. "mobbing" - not in the present typical use, but in the present context) that expresses in different ways owing to the specifics of the hosting environment, the change in its expression is relatively accidental. If you had drunkenness in the lab and in the pub, what is more cringeworthy one could say that is to find it in the lab.

mdp2021 4y ago

Very clearly the poster is talking about restraints caused by vocal sub-cultural shifts, not about pre-frontal abilities.

malermeister 4y ago
The two are interrelated. Human sacrifice used to be a common cultural practice in many parts of the world. In Europe, old men used to marry prebuscent teenagers. We suppressed those things through vocal cultural shifts.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  Again: the OP is not condemning vocal cultural shifts that demand restraint of unreasonable behaviour. The OP is complaining about censorship.
  - malermeister 4y ago
    You say tomato, I say tomato.
Barrin92 4y ago
Given that the OP compared their situation to the morality police in Iran, where dissenters tend to be hung from cranes I'm not so sure what restraints they think they're living under. Few things are more cringeworthy than people in free Western countries pretending they're living in the Soviet Union. I say my honest opinion all the time. When people say this stuff, can we get a concrete example for something you "just can't say" ? I bet you five bucks I can guess the nature of that statement.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  I personally do not have notable examples in my environment because of its specifics, but I have read a few interventions from Niall Ferguson (material from probably around 2018) about angry mobs impeding conferences of a "disliked" people (including his wife). Anyway, to the theoretical point: if you have a wave of some phenomenon (e.g. "mobbing" - not in the present typical use, but in the present context) that expresses in different ways owing to the specifics of the hosting environment, the change in its expression is relatively accidental. If you had drunkenness in the lab and in the pub, what is more cringeworthy one could say that is to find it in the lab.