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I mean considering the level of shitware samsung install on their phones (and make difficult to remove or disable) it will be hard to tell the difference betwee

I mean considering the level of shitware samsung install on their phones (and make difficult to remove or disable) it will be hard to tell the difference between the official stuff and straight up honest malware.

neodymiumphish 4y ago
I used to feel that way, but since the S10 series, there are very few things built into the Galaxy line that fall in the description of shitware anymore. McAfee's device protection shit definitely, but other than that, I can't think of any forced crapware on my last 3 unlocked Galaxy devices.
- gjsman-1000 4y ago
  You are lucky to have an Unlocked device. Most people don’t and get the carrier’s kitchen sink of added bloat.
  - mmastrac 4y ago
    Is that a thing anywhere outside of the US? I thought Europe moved past that.
    - GekkePrutser 4y ago
      We do, I've not come across a locked device in recent years. Only the cheapest prepaid ones still are. Most people I know don't buy them with a contract anyway, they just buy the device outright. Obviously it's always unlocked then.
- AuthorizedCust 4y ago
  You have no Samsung-built software beyond the minimum needed to make it work well on the hardware!?
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  Do you specifically mean Galaxy S? I bought a Galaxy A33 the other day for my mother. It came full of crapware. All kinds of Samsung this-or-the-other. Some of the apps can be disabled, but not all. Like parts of Bixby (= Samsung's assistant? no idea) can be disabled if you click through a warning, but others cannot. There is also a bunch of 3rd party crap pre-installed, like MS Onedrive, Facebook, Tiktok. And it pushes hard to use Onedrive instead of google drive. There's also a separate, Samsung store, and some functions seem to require a Samsung account.
  - japanman425 4y ago
- MikusR 4y ago
  Last shitware i can remember was the 3rd party IR remote control software they bundled with Note3/4, because a couple years later it was updated to have ads on lockscreen. But it was easily disableable from the app list. The latest Samsung device i have is tab s8 from this year and the software i would call bloat was all the Google stuff like Youtube, Youtube music, Duo, Chrome, Google search. And worst of all the Google assistant that you have to go to multiple places to disable.
  - annerajb 4y ago
    You bought a android phone. Google forces Samsung to put their Google crap on it and activate/ configure it a certain way before they certify the device firmware for Google play store download/access. If you don't want it the only option is a non android os such as oxygen.
    - Operyl 4y ago
      Oxygen is still Android, though..? Your next concern should be what the CCP might be forcing them to add in eventually.
- aceazzameen 4y ago
  I agree. In fact I have to install MORE Samsung software (their Good Lock apps) because I loathe the UX of modern Android. Good Lock's customization options make for a better experience IMO.
- rightbyte 4y ago
  Bixby, Samsung Pay? To add injury Bixby hijacks a physical button and Samsung Pay a swipe direction.

neodymiumphish 4y ago

I used to feel that way, but since the S10 series, there are very few things built into the Galaxy line that fall in the description of shitware anymore. McAfee's device protection shit definitely, but other than that, I can't think of any forced crapware on my last 3 unlocked Galaxy devices.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
You are lucky to have an Unlocked device. Most people don’t and get the carrier’s kitchen sink of added bloat.
- mmastrac 4y ago
  Is that a thing anywhere outside of the US? I thought Europe moved past that.
  - GekkePrutser 4y ago
    We do, I've not come across a locked device in recent years. Only the cheapest prepaid ones still are. Most people I know don't buy them with a contract anyway, they just buy the device outright. Obviously it's always unlocked then.
AuthorizedCust 4y ago
You have no Samsung-built software beyond the minimum needed to make it work well on the hardware!?
vladvasiliu 4y ago
Do you specifically mean Galaxy S? I bought a Galaxy A33 the other day for my mother. It came full of crapware. All kinds of Samsung this-or-the-other. Some of the apps can be disabled, but not all. Like parts of Bixby (= Samsung's assistant? no idea) can be disabled if you click through a warning, but others cannot. There is also a bunch of 3rd party crap pre-installed, like MS Onedrive, Facebook, Tiktok. And it pushes hard to use Onedrive instead of google drive. There's also a separate, Samsung store, and some functions seem to require a Samsung account.
- japanman425 4y ago
MikusR 4y ago
Last shitware i can remember was the 3rd party IR remote control software they bundled with Note3/4, because a couple years later it was updated to have ads on lockscreen. But it was easily disableable from the app list. The latest Samsung device i have is tab s8 from this year and the software i would call bloat was all the Google stuff like Youtube, Youtube music, Duo, Chrome, Google search. And worst of all the Google assistant that you have to go to multiple places to disable.
- annerajb 4y ago
  You bought a android phone. Google forces Samsung to put their Google crap on it and activate/ configure it a certain way before they certify the device firmware for Google play store download/access. If you don't want it the only option is a non android os such as oxygen.
  - Operyl 4y ago
    Oxygen is still Android, though..? Your next concern should be what the CCP might be forcing them to add in eventually.
aceazzameen 4y ago
I agree. In fact I have to install MORE Samsung software (their Good Lock apps) because I loathe the UX of modern Android. Good Lock's customization options make for a better experience IMO.
rightbyte 4y ago
Bixby, Samsung Pay? To add injury Bixby hijacks a physical button and Samsung Pay a swipe direction.