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Do you think only "USA" bases have problems? Like why would only US air force bases have this problem? Do other countries use eco-friendly / biodegradable mate

Do you think only "USA" bases have problems? Like why would only US air force bases have this problem? Do other countries use eco-friendly / biodegradable materials on their bases? Edit: This is not to say I think it's "OK" that this is happening, I feel the USA should strive to be way better than this, I just doubt this happens on American bases only. Edit 2: Little bit surprised and disappointed about the down votes, I'm not trying to discount this is an American base, but if the issue is these use of toxic chemicals used in things likefirefighting exercises, it's happening everywhere in the world and should be stopped?

pmontra 4y ago
It might be a common problem to all air forces around the world but how many other countries have so many air bases around the world? I guess that no Japanese ever complained about the environmental impact of an Italian or French air force base in Okinawa.
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throwaway78987 4y ago
Don’t be surprised by the downvotes. There seems to be a little bit of the “USA BAD” vibe here right now ~ especially in terms of the military. The US does seem to emphasize training and preparedness over simply having equipment which could lead to higher relative levels of contamination when compared to other militaries. I’m not sure if that is the case, but I recall the training differences being considered a factor when evaluating operational challenges (for example Saddam’s iraqi troops vs Cold War Soviets in the same equipment and situation ~ the Soviets would be expected to present a significantly harder challenge just by virtue of better training ~ at least in theory)
- bamboozled 4y ago
  I guess if what you're saying is true, they can replace the foam with water or similar for the majority of training.
  - DontchaKnowit 4y ago
    But that is the point of training - water is not foam. You have never used foam before if you used water for your foam training. You have no experience. Maybe a substance with similar foamy propertoes but no pfas? Idk the answer

pmontra 4y ago

It might be a common problem to all air forces around the world but how many other countries have so many air bases around the world? I guess that no Japanese ever complained about the environmental impact of an Italian or French air force base in Okinawa.

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throwaway78987 4y ago

Don’t be surprised by the downvotes. There seems to be a little bit of the “USA BAD” vibe here right now ~ especially in terms of the military. The US does seem to emphasize training and preparedness over simply having equipment which could lead to higher relative levels of contamination when compared to other militaries. I’m not sure if that is the case, but I recall the training differences being considered a factor when evaluating operational challenges (for example Saddam’s iraqi troops vs Cold War Soviets in the same equipment and situation ~ the Soviets would be expected to present a significantly harder challenge just by virtue of better training ~ at least in theory)

bamboozled 4y ago
I guess if what you're saying is true, they can replace the foam with water or similar for the majority of training.
- DontchaKnowit 4y ago
  But that is the point of training - water is not foam. You have never used foam before if you used water for your foam training. You have no experience. Maybe a substance with similar foamy propertoes but no pfas? Idk the answer