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Why make such bold proclamations? Norway is at 84% of new car sales already. A lot can change in 10 years.

matrix_overload 4y ago
Due to subsidies from selling oil. In a climate where lithium batteries will die way faster than a combustion engine would. It looks great on paper, as long as you don't look at the big picture.
riffraff 4y ago
Norway has _really_ cheap electricity due to producing 90% of it via hydro, backed by being a gas and oil exporter with a total population smaller than Paris. This is not the case for most of the EU. I do agree that things can change in ten years.
- pjerem 4y ago
  Really cheap electricity can be achieved with nuclear everywhere in the world. Making the same errors we made in France are not a mandatory thing. What is happening right now is not because nuclear was the wrong choice, but because we stopped investing in it during decades and so we are now stuck with this corrosion issue everywhere because all our power plants aged in parallel and so, issues relative to aging happens in parallel. It’s a sad state because this corrosion issue is said to be easily solvable … as long as you don’t have dozens of reactors to fix in parallel before the winter.
  - riffraff 4y ago
    > Really cheap electricity can be achieved with nuclear everywhere in the world. sure, in abstract, but we're talking of the EU in 12 years. I think the discussion is not meaningful anyway: the stop to ICE vehicles sales in 2035 does not mean the whole continent will stop having them. My mom's neighbor drives a 20 year old FIAT Panda.
- coldtea 4y ago
  They supported it with natural resources, subsidies/tax cuts for EVs, and a good enough economy. All of which are either non existend, or declining in most of Europe. And having a country with big sales is nowhere close to the same thing as supporting a 350 market with anywhere near replacement rates of its cars - which beside lacking infrastructure, it also needs capacities, battery resources etc, that are not there at this level.
coldtea 4y ago
The trends affecting the next 10 years are reversing, not boosting this though...

Due to subsidies from selling oil. In a climate where lithium batteries will die way faster than a combustion engine would. It looks great on paper, as long as you don't look at the big picture.

riffraff 4y ago

Norway has _really_ cheap electricity due to producing 90% of it via hydro, backed by being a gas and oil exporter with a total population smaller than Paris. This is not the case for most of the EU. I do agree that things can change in ten years.

pjerem 4y ago
Really cheap electricity can be achieved with nuclear everywhere in the world. Making the same errors we made in France are not a mandatory thing. What is happening right now is not because nuclear was the wrong choice, but because we stopped investing in it during decades and so we are now stuck with this corrosion issue everywhere because all our power plants aged in parallel and so, issues relative to aging happens in parallel. It’s a sad state because this corrosion issue is said to be easily solvable … as long as you don’t have dozens of reactors to fix in parallel before the winter.
- riffraff 4y ago
  > Really cheap electricity can be achieved with nuclear everywhere in the world. sure, in abstract, but we're talking of the EU in 12 years. I think the discussion is not meaningful anyway: the stop to ICE vehicles sales in 2035 does not mean the whole continent will stop having them. My mom's neighbor drives a 20 year old FIAT Panda.
coldtea 4y ago
They supported it with natural resources, subsidies/tax cuts for EVs, and a good enough economy. All of which are either non existend, or declining in most of Europe. And having a country with big sales is nowhere close to the same thing as supporting a 350 market with anywhere near replacement rates of its cars - which beside lacking infrastructure, it also needs capacities, battery resources etc, that are not there at this level.

coldtea 4y ago

The trends affecting the next 10 years are reversing, not boosting this though...