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There is this growing belief, especially among genZ kids, that what happens online, what is seen by an audience, is the prevalent reality. And this is not enti

There is this growing belief, especially among genZ kids, that what happens online, what is seen by an audience, is the prevalent reality. And this is not entirely false, in practice.

dmix 4y ago
All I see on social media is that SBF engaged in a black and white pump and dump scheme or is a straight up Bernie Madoff. That’s also probably not reality either, it’s far more complicated and nuanced. Would you prefer that is how the narrative stays? He becomes a Disney villain? That it’s as bad as possible to punish him? As some sort of deterrence? GenZ won’t be watching raw WSJ interviews, it will be chopped up in TikTok videos with the usual “world is going to shit” spin the media always uses.
- somenameforme 4y ago
  SBF is, at the minimum, a conman and a liar. And not only is he a conman and a liar, but an exceptionally skilled one. He managed to get the backing of the World Economic Forum, and even various world leaders including Bill Clinton and Tony Blair. The "narrative" should stay within the domain of the facts established, and not within the ever-widening range of fables being spun by a skilled liar. And the facts established are not ambiguous. Money, in the billions, is completely unaccounted for. What money that can be accounted for was repeatedly misappropriated (which is a high felony, and not the 'oopsie' it might sound). There were "backdoors" to enable money to be removed from accounts with 0 accounting, and more. This is a not a "nuanced" case.
- edmundsauto 4y ago
  > GenZ won’t be watching raw WSJ interviews, it will be chopped up in TikTok videos with the usual “world is going to shit” spin the media always uses. This is an unfair statement, because it implies a difference about GenZ versus the millennials with cnn or boomers with Fox News. Not only is it unsubstantiated but also unnecessary.
  - andirk 4y ago
    A few of the best in-depth coverages of the scummy US politicians during the 2020 election were done by Teen Vogue. TikTok is a pile, but I agree that juxtaposing it to Clinton Network Network, MSDNC, and Fox Snooze as if those hold any integrity at this point is laughable.
    - edmundsauto 4y ago
      There’s no need for name calling. It may come from frustration but it sounds childish and reduces the quality of discourse.
  - dmix 4y ago
    I don’t think it’s any different but let’s be honest about the type of political content younger people often consume. It’s always snippy, fast paced, and with a “surprising” angle. 24hr talking heads are equally low brow but it’s usually more straight forward sound bite + overt opinion layer.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > GenZ won’t be watching raw WSJ interviews, it will be chopped up in TikTok videos with the usual “world is going to shit” spin the media always uses. I am old enough to remember when mostly Silent Generation and older types were saying essentially the same thing (using different youth culture reference points) about the “the MTV generation” (Gen X, mostly), and its a lot like complaints about youth that have been attested to about as far back as we have recovered writing.

There is this growing belief, especially among genZ kids, that what happens online, what is seen by an audience, is the prevalent reality. And this is not entirely false, in practice.

dmix 4y ago

All I see on social media is that SBF engaged in a black and white pump and dump scheme or is a straight up Bernie Madoff. That’s also probably not reality either, it’s far more complicated and nuanced. Would you prefer that is how the narrative stays? He becomes a Disney villain? That it’s as bad as possible to punish him? As some sort of deterrence? GenZ won’t be watching raw WSJ interviews, it will be chopped up in TikTok videos with the usual “world is going to shit” spin the media always uses.

somenameforme 4y ago
SBF is, at the minimum, a conman and a liar. And not only is he a conman and a liar, but an exceptionally skilled one. He managed to get the backing of the World Economic Forum, and even various world leaders including Bill Clinton and Tony Blair. The "narrative" should stay within the domain of the facts established, and not within the ever-widening range of fables being spun by a skilled liar. And the facts established are not ambiguous. Money, in the billions, is completely unaccounted for. What money that can be accounted for was repeatedly misappropriated (which is a high felony, and not the 'oopsie' it might sound). There were "backdoors" to enable money to be removed from accounts with 0 accounting, and more. This is a not a "nuanced" case.
edmundsauto 4y ago
> GenZ won’t be watching raw WSJ interviews, it will be chopped up in TikTok videos with the usual “world is going to shit” spin the media always uses. This is an unfair statement, because it implies a difference about GenZ versus the millennials with cnn or boomers with Fox News. Not only is it unsubstantiated but also unnecessary.
- andirk 4y ago
  A few of the best in-depth coverages of the scummy US politicians during the 2020 election were done by Teen Vogue. TikTok is a pile, but I agree that juxtaposing it to Clinton Network Network, MSDNC, and Fox Snooze as if those hold any integrity at this point is laughable.
  - edmundsauto 4y ago
    There’s no need for name calling. It may come from frustration but it sounds childish and reduces the quality of discourse.
- dmix 4y ago
  I don’t think it’s any different but let’s be honest about the type of political content younger people often consume. It’s always snippy, fast paced, and with a “surprising” angle. 24hr talking heads are equally low brow but it’s usually more straight forward sound bite + overt opinion layer.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> GenZ won’t be watching raw WSJ interviews, it will be chopped up in TikTok videos with the usual “world is going to shit” spin the media always uses. I am old enough to remember when mostly Silent Generation and older types were saying essentially the same thing (using different youth culture reference points) about the “the MTV generation” (Gen X, mostly), and its a lot like complaints about youth that have been attested to about as far back as we have recovered writing.