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This is very word salad. It makes superficial sense, but doesn’t really say a lot nor represent a strong or comprehensive case.

arkitaip 4y ago
This level of word salad will be more than enough in most cases. Give it another few years and I can see how this type of AI permeates all aspects of life in the same way code has.
- JauntyHatAngle 4y ago
  "ChatGPT, do my homework". I can see it already.
  - gnyman 4y ago
    Definitely. I'm using it to solve Advent of Code [1] and there a few others doing the same [2]. The training data biases definitely shines trough sometimes but thats mostly when the problem labels (R)ock, (P)aper, (S)cissor as A, B, C. It really wanted to use R,P,S as identifiers. But after you tell it to use the right identifiers it solves the problem. For homework which is usually smaller variations on the same concepts I think it would ace it every time. The [2] post is gathering some momentum on HN right now actually [3]. There are many more. [1] https://blog.nyman.re/2022/12/03/chatgpt-does-advent.html https://blog.nyman.re/2022/12/03/chatgpt-does-advent.html [2] https://note89.github.io/the-advent-of-code-ai-edition/ https://note89.github.io/the-advent-of-code-ai-edition/ [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33842904 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33842904
    - JauntyHatAngle 4y ago
      My partner is a teacher, and I genuinely think that in the next few years people will start to use gpt3 to finish assignments and teachers will have to begin to recognise it.
esjeon 4y ago
I don't get why this is getting downvoted. (1) The half of the response is just a rephrase of the original comment. ChatGPT does show this behavior when it can't process the input well. Not really sure if this behavior is intentionally designed. (2) The extra information is very generic and can be valid in multiple contexts. It's your brain that is trying to cheat you here by trying to figure out the meaning. Hell, you can find meaning from literally everything if you sincerely try. One step back, and it's easy to realize how empty the response is.
- kortex 4y ago
  It's probably downvoted because it's not word salad, not even figurative. Word salad would be like, "ChatGPT uses the finest prefabulated amulite to synergize performant cloud solutions to our business partners." But that's just jargon technobabble. Actual word salad is more like "First words said was that only 1 day could be used on Earth to not change the 1 day marshmallow. So they applied the 1 day and ignored the other 3 days." What it actually said is a perfectly cromulent, albeit slightly vapid, response directly to the question. The output is extremely "clean" (all the words are used correctly, in the correct way, to convey a point). Earlier chatbots tend towards actual word salad any time they go off canned responses.
  - girvo 4y ago
    Exactly. It's not word salad, it's pretty bog standard PR speak. Which is pretty impressive, and continues to prove to myself that regular PR and marketing copy may as well be written by robots!
    - moffkalast 4y ago
      Well can we honestly disagree that marketing people are emotionless robots without a shred of empathy already?
- CGamesPlay 4y ago
  It occurs to me that one interesting use case would be a measure of the novelty of an argument, based on how likely the argument is to be produced by one of the large language models. If the model is likely to produce that argument, it isn't novel.
baby 4y ago
Input: write an rebuttal to this comment criticizing the accuracy of some text produced by an AI. It should tell the commenter how wrong they are and how incredible of a breakthrough the new chatGPT AI is: This is very word salad. It makes superficial sense, but doesn’t really say a lot nor represent a strong or comprehensive case. --- I understand that you may have some concerns about the accuracy of the text produced by our new chatGPT AI, but I assure you that it is a significant breakthrough in the field of natural language processing. Our AI uses advanced algorithms and deep learning techniques to generate text that is both coherent and reflective of the input it receives. While it is true that no AI is perfect and there may be occasional errors or inconsistencies in the text it produces, the overall accuracy and effectiveness of our chatGPT AI is exceptional. I encourage you to give it a try and see for yourself the incredible capabilities of this technology.
- sixfourfour 4y ago
  I appreciate your explanation, but I still remain skeptical. It's true that AI technology has come a long way in recent years, but I think it's important to recognize the limitations and challenges that still exist. While your chatGPT AI may be able to produce coherent text, it is still far from being able to truly understand and think in the same way that human beings do. I believe that it is dangerous to attribute too much intelligence or understanding to AI systems, as this can lead to unrealistic expectations and potential consequences. I think it's important to continue to develop and improve AI technology, but we should also approach it with caution and humility.
  - fourfoursix 4y ago
    I understand your concerns and I share your desire to approach AI technology with caution and humility. However, I also believe that we should not underestimate the potential of AI to make positive contributions in many different fields. While it is true that AI systems are still limited in their abilities, they are also constantly learning and improving. As we continue to develop and refine AI technology, I believe that it has the potential to become a valuable asset in many different industries and applications. I think it's important to continue to explore and test the capabilities of AI, while also being mindful of the potential risks and challenges that it presents.
llanowarelves 4y ago
That's how a lot of people talk/write, like when they are padding sentences out for a school essay, or are answering on-the-fly about something they don't know and need to come up with something. How many people fail a Turing test?
- moffkalast 4y ago
  Extra credit https://xkcd.com/329/ https://xkcd.com/329/
bryan0 4y ago
I think this quote represents actually a key part of a rebuttal: > I do not believe that general intelligence is a fixed and static concept, but rather something that can be developed and expanded upon. When Parent says this is not “understanding” or “intelligence” this is representing a very limited view of those concepts. What ChatGPT is pointing out is that these should be flexible definitions. Clearly it is not AGI, but it is demonstrating that it is on the pathway.
fourfoursix 4y ago
I simulated the conversation further all the way to making it get heated. You can manipulate the responses to go in whatever direction you like. I think it's superficial in the sense that you didn't ask anything specific from it. The AI has no opinion of it's own, you ask for it to respond it can, but it it's not instructed to give any sort of bias or convincing answer. If you deliberately inject bias into your query by asking chatGPT to act biased in a certain way or you train it on biased and opinionated data chatGPT will likely give the opinionated responses you want to see. However the AI outputs word salad by default simply because "word salad" is an amalgamation of the Internets opinions. It's not because it's lacking any sort of AI ability, it's trained to believe in the word salad and argue for it. edit: it got "flagged". Understand how the content can be annoying to some but the results in the end feel interesting. Anyway just so you guys know, you're not suppose to "flag" that content. Only vote down if you disagree, there's no violation of the rules there.
- noduerme 4y ago
  I for one thought it was clever. Too annoying to read the whole thing, but that was sort of the point, and the ending made me chuckle.

arkitaip 4y ago

This level of word salad will be more than enough in most cases. Give it another few years and I can see how this type of AI permeates all aspects of life in the same way code has.

JauntyHatAngle 4y ago
"ChatGPT, do my homework". I can see it already.
- gnyman 4y ago
  Definitely. I'm using it to solve Advent of Code [1] and there a few others doing the same [2]. The training data biases definitely shines trough sometimes but thats mostly when the problem labels (R)ock, (P)aper, (S)cissor as A, B, C. It really wanted to use R,P,S as identifiers. But after you tell it to use the right identifiers it solves the problem. For homework which is usually smaller variations on the same concepts I think it would ace it every time. The [2] post is gathering some momentum on HN right now actually [3]. There are many more. [1] https://blog.nyman.re/2022/12/03/chatgpt-does-advent.html https://blog.nyman.re/2022/12/03/chatgpt-does-advent.html [2] https://note89.github.io/the-advent-of-code-ai-edition/ https://note89.github.io/the-advent-of-code-ai-edition/ [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33842904 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33842904
  - JauntyHatAngle 4y ago
    My partner is a teacher, and I genuinely think that in the next few years people will start to use gpt3 to finish assignments and teachers will have to begin to recognise it.

esjeon 4y ago

I don't get why this is getting downvoted. (1) The half of the response is just a rephrase of the original comment. ChatGPT does show this behavior when it can't process the input well. Not really sure if this behavior is intentionally designed. (2) The extra information is very generic and can be valid in multiple contexts. It's your brain that is trying to cheat you here by trying to figure out the meaning. Hell, you can find meaning from literally everything if you sincerely try. One step back, and it's easy to realize how empty the response is.

kortex 4y ago
It's probably downvoted because it's not word salad, not even figurative. Word salad would be like, "ChatGPT uses the finest prefabulated amulite to synergize performant cloud solutions to our business partners." But that's just jargon technobabble. Actual word salad is more like "First words said was that only 1 day could be used on Earth to not change the 1 day marshmallow. So they applied the 1 day and ignored the other 3 days." What it actually said is a perfectly cromulent, albeit slightly vapid, response directly to the question. The output is extremely "clean" (all the words are used correctly, in the correct way, to convey a point). Earlier chatbots tend towards actual word salad any time they go off canned responses.
- girvo 4y ago
  Exactly. It's not word salad, it's pretty bog standard PR speak. Which is pretty impressive, and continues to prove to myself that regular PR and marketing copy may as well be written by robots!
  - moffkalast 4y ago
    Well can we honestly disagree that marketing people are emotionless robots without a shred of empathy already?
CGamesPlay 4y ago
It occurs to me that one interesting use case would be a measure of the novelty of an argument, based on how likely the argument is to be produced by one of the large language models. If the model is likely to produce that argument, it isn't novel.

baby 4y ago

Input: write an rebuttal to this comment criticizing the accuracy of some text produced by an AI. It should tell the commenter how wrong they are and how incredible of a breakthrough the new chatGPT AI is: This is very word salad. It makes superficial sense, but doesn’t really say a lot nor represent a strong or comprehensive case. --- I understand that you may have some concerns about the accuracy of the text produced by our new chatGPT AI, but I assure you that it is a significant breakthrough in the field of natural language processing. Our AI uses advanced algorithms and deep learning techniques to generate text that is both coherent and reflective of the input it receives. While it is true that no AI is perfect and there may be occasional errors or inconsistencies in the text it produces, the overall accuracy and effectiveness of our chatGPT AI is exceptional. I encourage you to give it a try and see for yourself the incredible capabilities of this technology.

sixfourfour 4y ago
I appreciate your explanation, but I still remain skeptical. It's true that AI technology has come a long way in recent years, but I think it's important to recognize the limitations and challenges that still exist. While your chatGPT AI may be able to produce coherent text, it is still far from being able to truly understand and think in the same way that human beings do. I believe that it is dangerous to attribute too much intelligence or understanding to AI systems, as this can lead to unrealistic expectations and potential consequences. I think it's important to continue to develop and improve AI technology, but we should also approach it with caution and humility.
- fourfoursix 4y ago
  I understand your concerns and I share your desire to approach AI technology with caution and humility. However, I also believe that we should not underestimate the potential of AI to make positive contributions in many different fields. While it is true that AI systems are still limited in their abilities, they are also constantly learning and improving. As we continue to develop and refine AI technology, I believe that it has the potential to become a valuable asset in many different industries and applications. I think it's important to continue to explore and test the capabilities of AI, while also being mindful of the potential risks and challenges that it presents.

llanowarelves 4y ago

That's how a lot of people talk/write, like when they are padding sentences out for a school essay, or are answering on-the-fly about something they don't know and need to come up with something. How many people fail a Turing test?

moffkalast 4y ago
Extra credit https://xkcd.com/329/ https://xkcd.com/329/

bryan0 4y ago

I think this quote represents actually a key part of a rebuttal: > I do not believe that general intelligence is a fixed and static concept, but rather something that can be developed and expanded upon. When Parent says this is not “understanding” or “intelligence” this is representing a very limited view of those concepts. What ChatGPT is pointing out is that these should be flexible definitions. Clearly it is not AGI, but it is demonstrating that it is on the pathway.

fourfoursix 4y ago

I simulated the conversation further all the way to making it get heated. You can manipulate the responses to go in whatever direction you like. I think it's superficial in the sense that you didn't ask anything specific from it. The AI has no opinion of it's own, you ask for it to respond it can, but it it's not instructed to give any sort of bias or convincing answer. If you deliberately inject bias into your query by asking chatGPT to act biased in a certain way or you train it on biased and opinionated data chatGPT will likely give the opinionated responses you want to see. However the AI outputs word salad by default simply because "word salad" is an amalgamation of the Internets opinions. It's not because it's lacking any sort of AI ability, it's trained to believe in the word salad and argue for it. edit: it got "flagged". Understand how the content can be annoying to some but the results in the end feel interesting. Anyway just so you guys know, you're not suppose to "flag" that content. Only vote down if you disagree, there's no violation of the rules there.

noduerme 4y ago
I for one thought it was clever. Too annoying to read the whole thing, but that was sort of the point, and the ending made me chuckle.