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Joe Rogan supported Bernie, too :) The thing that Bernie understood and most libs don't is that we can be united on class issues or divided on culture war issu

Joe Rogan supported Bernie, too :) The thing that Bernie understood and most libs don't is that we can be united on class issues or divided on culture war issues. We lose with the latter. I've never seen libsoftiktok and I don't read a lot of Greenwald lately. I like Taibbi and subscribe to him.

skinnymuch 4y ago
https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitutional-right-to-post-hunter-bidens-dick-pic-on-twitter/ https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitution... Taibbi seems to have found..not much. So he’s a bunch of BS too. I don’t trust what you’re saying at this point. I’m sure you’ll figure out some way to contest things. Once I nailed down Greenwald down you hand waved it away. I wouldn’t remain friends or defensive of someone who publicly supports a hate account/community. That says enough to me about Taibbi and how he sees Greenwald.
- woooooo 4y ago
  I'm just not greatly affected by a snarky and oblique tweet from years ago. Sorry. Greenwald published the intercept for years, it's not a conservative outlet. He published Snowden. I don't think libsoftiktok would self-identify as a "hate account" and I'm positive taibbi and Greenwald wouldn't self-identify as conservative. Maybe none of us are good enough for you and you'll have to be content with green party candidates
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    Of course bad people or orgs don’t self identify as such. That makes no logical sense in the real world. And in other cases people do things for political reasons. Your responses remind me of Joe Rogan saying people like Ron DeSantis are good people trying to give people freedom because that’s what Desantis told Joe to his face. You’ve shown your true colors wrt libsoftiktok. This is one of countless examples of the hate libsoftiktok spews. It’s not hard to come by: https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banned/ https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banne.... I should not have kept holding out hope you came in good faith.
    - jessaustin 4y ago
      No thinking person cares about "libs of tiktok". Either the account itself, or the "libs" the account "exposes". Stop being distracted by ephemeral personalities. Care more about real things. "Hate", and far less the pale imitation of hate you claim to care about, is not a real thing.
      - skinnymuch 4y ago
        What does it matter if a thinking person cares or not. What matters is millions of people do care. People who vote. I’ll let my transgender friends know they shouldn’t worry about the hate that comes their way because it isn’t real. I suspect the people who have had death threats and such thrown at them because of the account don’t feel the same way you do.
        noxer 4y ago
        The account re-posts what other people voluntarily put on the internet. I'm not aware of any self produced content. You can question if its ethically appropriate to re-post these stuff as it frequently seems to be from people with severe mental problems. The claim however that people get death threats because of that account is silly. If something causes people to send death threats then if more people see it it would result in more death threats but that is not the fault of whoever made it visible. If this is the hill you want to die on then you should advocate for total censorship of everything since everything could trigger some unstable or evil person to send out death threats. So then then question here is why do you write comments on HN? It's dangerous! Your posts and the posts you help push could increase the number of death threats being send. I'm sure you dont care about that at all. You write and post whatever you want and feel zero responsibility for other peoples irrational (re)actions. Obviously that is how it should be.
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        Libsoftiktok pushes narratives. Spins stories. It lies. It does not just forward messages. All your arguments are based on the false premise that libsoftiktok is some innocent reposter. Which then is what all your attacks on me hinge on. > if this is the hill you want to do die on… > So then then question here is why do you write comments… To make it clear. People have gotten threats because of the way libsoftiktok has editorialized stories. The moral bankruptcy is squarely on the account. The pseudo-intellectual attacks you’re doing are weird. Changing the argument to pretend I’m upset that any one can be triggered by anything is weird. Pretending libsoftiktok is not an anti-lgbtq hate account is weird. Supporting hatred is weird.

skinnymuch 4y ago

https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitutional-right-to-post-hunter-bidens-dick-pic-on-twitter/ https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitution... Taibbi seems to have found..not much. So he’s a bunch of BS too. I don’t trust what you’re saying at this point. I’m sure you’ll figure out some way to contest things. Once I nailed down Greenwald down you hand waved it away. I wouldn’t remain friends or defensive of someone who publicly supports a hate account/community. That says enough to me about Taibbi and how he sees Greenwald.

woooooo 4y ago
I'm just not greatly affected by a snarky and oblique tweet from years ago. Sorry. Greenwald published the intercept for years, it's not a conservative outlet. He published Snowden. I don't think libsoftiktok would self-identify as a "hate account" and I'm positive taibbi and Greenwald wouldn't self-identify as conservative. Maybe none of us are good enough for you and you'll have to be content with green party candidates
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  Of course bad people or orgs don’t self identify as such. That makes no logical sense in the real world. And in other cases people do things for political reasons. Your responses remind me of Joe Rogan saying people like Ron DeSantis are good people trying to give people freedom because that’s what Desantis told Joe to his face. You’ve shown your true colors wrt libsoftiktok. This is one of countless examples of the hate libsoftiktok spews. It’s not hard to come by: https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banned/ https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banne.... I should not have kept holding out hope you came in good faith.
  - jessaustin 4y ago
    No thinking person cares about "libs of tiktok". Either the account itself, or the "libs" the account "exposes". Stop being distracted by ephemeral personalities. Care more about real things. "Hate", and far less the pale imitation of hate you claim to care about, is not a real thing.
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      What does it matter if a thinking person cares or not. What matters is millions of people do care. People who vote. I’ll let my transgender friends know they shouldn’t worry about the hate that comes their way because it isn’t real. I suspect the people who have had death threats and such thrown at them because of the account don’t feel the same way you do.
      - noxer 4y ago
        The account re-posts what other people voluntarily put on the internet. I'm not aware of any self produced content. You can question if its ethically appropriate to re-post these stuff as it frequently seems to be from people with severe mental problems. The claim however that people get death threats because of that account is silly. If something causes people to send death threats then if more people see it it would result in more death threats but that is not the fault of whoever made it visible. If this is the hill you want to die on then you should advocate for total censorship of everything since everything could trigger some unstable or evil person to send out death threats. So then then question here is why do you write comments on HN? It's dangerous! Your posts and the posts you help push could increase the number of death threats being send. I'm sure you dont care about that at all. You write and post whatever you want and feel zero responsibility for other peoples irrational (re)actions. Obviously that is how it should be.
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        Libsoftiktok pushes narratives. Spins stories. It lies. It does not just forward messages. All your arguments are based on the false premise that libsoftiktok is some innocent reposter. Which then is what all your attacks on me hinge on. > if this is the hill you want to do die on… > So then then question here is why do you write comments… To make it clear. People have gotten threats because of the way libsoftiktok has editorialized stories. The moral bankruptcy is squarely on the account. The pseudo-intellectual attacks you’re doing are weird. Changing the argument to pretend I’m upset that any one can be triggered by anything is weird. Pretending libsoftiktok is not an anti-lgbtq hate account is weird. Supporting hatred is weird.