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You are saying "national security" out loud and it's dogwhistle for xenophobic nationalism. Taking a company that's being successfully turned around in the name

You are saying "national security" out loud and it's dogwhistle for xenophobic nationalism. Taking a company that's being successfully turned around in the name of national security is wrong.

tpmx 4y ago
I am saying that the CCP is bad. I am not cloaking this statement in any kind of ambiguity. Again, where is the dog whistle, exactly?
- peppertree 4y ago
  People often can't see their blind spot so I'm going to try one more time to explain this. This has nothing to do with "national security". If it did Swedish government would have rescued Volvo along with Saab when it was worth pennies. Geely is a private company that took the risk and made the investment to turn Volvo around. People like you see things through the lens of race and nationalism. That gives you justification to rob others. You Swedes are amateurs in this game. US was founded on the idea of robbing other race groups in the name of security.
  - arein3 4y ago
    Chinese bought Volvo because everyone associates chinese with very poor quality for reasons. Volvo will lose it's reputation the moment the chinese will pull the usual stuff.
- rsj_hn 4y ago
  It's CPC - Communist Party of China. Calling it CCP, Chinese Communist Party, is also a dog whistle, as it dates back to the various "Chi-Com" slurs of the John Birch era, in which they were focused on Chinese communists (emphasis communism) as opposed to, say, Russian communists. You may not like the CPC, but you should at least be able to correctly identify it. Getting the name wrong is a signal of being misinformed, no different than someone talking about UAS - or United American States, instead of USA - reveals they don't even know basic things about the USA, but are repeating what they heard online from others who are equally uninformed about the USA.
  - rippercushions 4y ago
    It's 中国共产党, which is quite literally "China Common-Production [Communist] Party". The party's preferred translation is indeed CPC, but CCP is arguably more correct.
    - DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
      Chinese grammar is so different from English grammar that it's entirely unclear whether CCP or CPC is the more correct translation (from a grammatical perspective). Just to begin with, Chinese does not modify words through endings, conjugations, etc., so it doesn't even have an equivalent to "Chinese" (an adjectival form of "China"). 中国共产党 is just literally, "China-Communism-Party." There are several ways to render that in English, all equally valid, from a grammatical point of view.

You are saying "national security" out loud and it's dogwhistle for xenophobic nationalism. Taking a company that's being successfully turned around in the name of national security is wrong.

tpmx 4y ago

I am saying that the CCP is bad. I am not cloaking this statement in any kind of ambiguity. Again, where is the dog whistle, exactly?

peppertree 4y ago
People often can't see their blind spot so I'm going to try one more time to explain this. This has nothing to do with "national security". If it did Swedish government would have rescued Volvo along with Saab when it was worth pennies. Geely is a private company that took the risk and made the investment to turn Volvo around. People like you see things through the lens of race and nationalism. That gives you justification to rob others. You Swedes are amateurs in this game. US was founded on the idea of robbing other race groups in the name of security.
- arein3 4y ago
  Chinese bought Volvo because everyone associates chinese with very poor quality for reasons. Volvo will lose it's reputation the moment the chinese will pull the usual stuff.
rsj_hn 4y ago
It's CPC - Communist Party of China. Calling it CCP, Chinese Communist Party, is also a dog whistle, as it dates back to the various "Chi-Com" slurs of the John Birch era, in which they were focused on Chinese communists (emphasis communism) as opposed to, say, Russian communists. You may not like the CPC, but you should at least be able to correctly identify it. Getting the name wrong is a signal of being misinformed, no different than someone talking about UAS - or United American States, instead of USA - reveals they don't even know basic things about the USA, but are repeating what they heard online from others who are equally uninformed about the USA.
- rippercushions 4y ago
  It's 中国共产党, which is quite literally "China Common-Production [Communist] Party". The party's preferred translation is indeed CPC, but CCP is arguably more correct.
  - DiogenesKynikos 4y ago
    Chinese grammar is so different from English grammar that it's entirely unclear whether CCP or CPC is the more correct translation (from a grammatical perspective). Just to begin with, Chinese does not modify words through endings, conjugations, etc., so it doesn't even have an equivalent to "Chinese" (an adjectival form of "China"). 中国共产党 is just literally, "China-Communism-Party." There are several ways to render that in English, all equally valid, from a grammatical point of view.