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> Actually, not perceived. Temporary blocking doesn't change anything -- it /postpones/ actual changes by puberty. I wasn't aware of that. Can you provide a c

> Actually, not perceived. Temporary blocking doesn't change anything -- it /postpones/ actual changes by puberty. I wasn't aware of that. Can you provide a citation?

0ct4via 4y ago
I can, but given you've gone off half-cocked making various ridiculous claims, eventually admitting once you were wrong, and making personal attacks and accusations you delete, I'm not sure I should be wasting time trying to educate someone who isn't arguing in good faith or being honest to begin with. "When a person stops taking puberty blockers, their body will resume puberty exactly as it would have had they never taken the medication, says Jennifer Osipoff, MD, a pediatric endocrinologist at Stony Brook Children’s Hospital in New York." [1] "There are no known irreversible effects of puberty blockers. If you decide to stop taking them, your body will go through puberty just the way it would have if you had not taken puberty blockers at all." [2] "Puberty's physical changes can cause intense distress for many gender-nonconforming adolescents. When taken regularly, GnRH analogues suppress the body's release of sex hormones, including testosterone and estrogen, during puberty. [...] Use of GnRH analogues pauses puberty, providing time to determine if a child's gender identity is long lasting. It also gives children and their families time to think about or plan for the psychological, medical, developmental, social and legal issues ahead. If an adolescent child decides to stop taking GnRH analogues, puberty will resume and the normal progression of the physical and emotional changes of puberty will continue." [3] "Only reversible treatments to delay puberty are recommended for younger adolescents after they have entered puberty, according to our Clinical Practice Guideline and joint policy perspective issued with the Pediatric Endocrine Society." [4] [1] https://www.healthline.com/health/are-puberty-blockers-reversible https://www.healthline.com/health/are-puberty-blockers-rever... [2] http://www.phsa.ca/transcarebc/child-youth/affirmation-transition/medical-affirmation-transition/puberty-blockers-for-youth http://www.phsa.ca/transcarebc/child-youth/affirmation-trans... [3] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dyspho... [4] https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2022/endocrine-society-alarmed-at-criminalization-of-transgender-medicine https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2022/e... Here's another perspective on some common myths that are quickly and easily debunked: https://www.fatherly.com/health/myths-puberty-blockers-trans-kids-debunked https://www.fatherly.com/health/myths-puberty-blockers-trans... Next time try not making baseless claims and assumptions in the first place, then expecting other people to do your research for you.
engineer_22 4y ago
> Next time try not making baseless claims and assumptions in the first place, then expecting other people to do your research for you. I didn't make any claims. Please revisit the argument later after you've cooled off. It was nice chatting, but I think you took me the wrong way. P.S. I'm sorry I called you Skippy. I can see now that it probably got you worked up.

> Actually, not perceived. Temporary blocking doesn't change anything -- it /postpones/ actual changes by puberty. I wasn't aware of that. Can you provide a citation?

0ct4via 4y ago

I can, but given you've gone off half-cocked making various ridiculous claims, eventually admitting once you were wrong, and making personal attacks and accusations you delete, I'm not sure I should be wasting time trying to educate someone who isn't arguing in good faith or being honest to begin with. "When a person stops taking puberty blockers, their body will resume puberty exactly as it would have had they never taken the medication, says Jennifer Osipoff, MD, a pediatric endocrinologist at Stony Brook Children’s Hospital in New York." [1] "There are no known irreversible effects of puberty blockers. If you decide to stop taking them, your body will go through puberty just the way it would have if you had not taken puberty blockers at all." [2] "Puberty's physical changes can cause intense distress for many gender-nonconforming adolescents. When taken regularly, GnRH analogues suppress the body's release of sex hormones, including testosterone and estrogen, during puberty. [...] Use of GnRH analogues pauses puberty, providing time to determine if a child's gender identity is long lasting. It also gives children and their families time to think about or plan for the psychological, medical, developmental, social and legal issues ahead. If an adolescent child decides to stop taking GnRH analogues, puberty will resume and the normal progression of the physical and emotional changes of puberty will continue." [3] "Only reversible treatments to delay puberty are recommended for younger adolescents after they have entered puberty, according to our Clinical Practice Guideline and joint policy perspective issued with the Pediatric Endocrine Society." [4] [1] https://www.healthline.com/health/are-puberty-blockers-reversible https://www.healthline.com/health/are-puberty-blockers-rever... [2] http://www.phsa.ca/transcarebc/child-youth/affirmation-transition/medical-affirmation-transition/puberty-blockers-for-youth http://www.phsa.ca/transcarebc/child-youth/affirmation-trans... [3] https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075 https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dyspho... [4] https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2022/endocrine-society-alarmed-at-criminalization-of-transgender-medicine https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2022/e... Here's another perspective on some common myths that are quickly and easily debunked: https://www.fatherly.com/health/myths-puberty-blockers-trans-kids-debunked https://www.fatherly.com/health/myths-puberty-blockers-trans... Next time try not making baseless claims and assumptions in the first place, then expecting other people to do your research for you.

engineer_22 4y ago

> Next time try not making baseless claims and assumptions in the first place, then expecting other people to do your research for you. I didn't make any claims. Please revisit the argument later after you've cooled off. It was nice chatting, but I think you took me the wrong way. P.S. I'm sorry I called you Skippy. I can see now that it probably got you worked up.