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Yeah, they and I just don't see the "propaganda" thing like you do. You seem to view it as a zero-sum, with us or against us thing. And there may be some vali

Yeah, they and I just don't see the "propaganda" thing like you do. You seem to view it as a zero-sum, with us or against us thing. And there may be some validity to that with the realities of politics. But if someone had never once said "I like conservatives" or supported a single conservative policy plank, it's wrong to call them conservative. You could call them insufficiently loyal and I think they'd agree with that. But on stuff that matters for longer than a 24h news cycle they're consistently liberal. Taibbi, for example, wrote an entire book about Eric Garner's killing, documenting a ton of NYPD corruption in the process.. and has also spent a bunch of time making fun of embarrassing weepy SJWs on Twitter.

skinnymuch 4y ago
> us or against us Who is us? I was never on the same side as either of these people. Even 5 or 10 years ago. > wrong to call them conservative Libsoftiktok is literally a right wing HATE account/community. Greenwald loves it. > insufficiently loyal Loyal to what? I don’t like Democrats…they don’t either.
- woooooo 4y ago
  I'm pretty sure both of them voted Bernie and then Biden based on how they talked about candidates. So you kind or are on the same side at the end of the day, Twitter drama notwithstanding. (Unless you voted green)
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    I would never vote for Biden. Can we agree on the far more important issue of libsoftiktok being a right wing conservative account that is loved by Greenwald? Spreading bigotry and hatred. Smh.
    - woooooo 4y ago
      Joe Rogan supported Bernie, too :) The thing that Bernie understood and most libs don't is that we can be united on class issues or divided on culture war issues. We lose with the latter. I've never seen libsoftiktok and I don't read a lot of Greenwald lately. I like Taibbi and subscribe to him.
      - skinnymuch 4y ago
        https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitutional-right-to-post-hunter-bidens-dick-pic-on-twitter/ https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitution... Taibbi seems to have found..not much. So he’s a bunch of BS too. I don’t trust what you’re saying at this point. I’m sure you’ll figure out some way to contest things. Once I nailed down Greenwald down you hand waved it away. I wouldn’t remain friends or defensive of someone who publicly supports a hate account/community. That says enough to me about Taibbi and how he sees Greenwald.
        woooooo 4y ago
        I'm just not greatly affected by a snarky and oblique tweet from years ago. Sorry. Greenwald published the intercept for years, it's not a conservative outlet. He published Snowden. I don't think libsoftiktok would self-identify as a "hate account" and I'm positive taibbi and Greenwald wouldn't self-identify as conservative. Maybe none of us are good enough for you and you'll have to be content with green party candidates
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        Of course bad people or orgs don’t self identify as such. That makes no logical sense in the real world. And in other cases people do things for political reasons. Your responses remind me of Joe Rogan saying people like Ron DeSantis are good people trying to give people freedom because that’s what Desantis told Joe to his face. You’ve shown your true colors wrt libsoftiktok. This is one of countless examples of the hate libsoftiktok spews. It’s not hard to come by: https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banned/ https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banne.... I should not have kept holding out hope you came in good faith.

skinnymuch 4y ago

> us or against us Who is us? I was never on the same side as either of these people. Even 5 or 10 years ago. > wrong to call them conservative Libsoftiktok is literally a right wing HATE account/community. Greenwald loves it. > insufficiently loyal Loyal to what? I don’t like Democrats…they don’t either.

woooooo 4y ago
I'm pretty sure both of them voted Bernie and then Biden based on how they talked about candidates. So you kind or are on the same side at the end of the day, Twitter drama notwithstanding. (Unless you voted green)
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  I would never vote for Biden. Can we agree on the far more important issue of libsoftiktok being a right wing conservative account that is loved by Greenwald? Spreading bigotry and hatred. Smh.
  - woooooo 4y ago
    Joe Rogan supported Bernie, too :) The thing that Bernie understood and most libs don't is that we can be united on class issues or divided on culture war issues. We lose with the latter. I've never seen libsoftiktok and I don't read a lot of Greenwald lately. I like Taibbi and subscribe to him.
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitutional-right-to-post-hunter-bidens-dick-pic-on-twitter/ https://www.thebulwark.com/no-you-do-not-have-a-constitution... Taibbi seems to have found..not much. So he’s a bunch of BS too. I don’t trust what you’re saying at this point. I’m sure you’ll figure out some way to contest things. Once I nailed down Greenwald down you hand waved it away. I wouldn’t remain friends or defensive of someone who publicly supports a hate account/community. That says enough to me about Taibbi and how he sees Greenwald.
      - woooooo 4y ago
        I'm just not greatly affected by a snarky and oblique tweet from years ago. Sorry. Greenwald published the intercept for years, it's not a conservative outlet. He published Snowden. I don't think libsoftiktok would self-identify as a "hate account" and I'm positive taibbi and Greenwald wouldn't self-identify as conservative. Maybe none of us are good enough for you and you'll have to be content with green party candidates
        skinnymuch 4y ago
        Of course bad people or orgs don’t self identify as such. That makes no logical sense in the real world. And in other cases people do things for political reasons. Your responses remind me of Joe Rogan saying people like Ron DeSantis are good people trying to give people freedom because that’s what Desantis told Joe to his face. You’ve shown your true colors wrt libsoftiktok. This is one of countless examples of the hate libsoftiktok spews. It’s not hard to come by: https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banned/ https://god.dailydot.com/libsoftiktok-facebook-account-banne.... I should not have kept holding out hope you came in good faith.