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It's insane that this gets upvoted. Hacker News is turning truly monstrous.

by glogla 4y ago

paganel 4y ago
> It's insane that this gets upvoted. Hacker News should just just ban politics-related discussions altogether. What you find "insane" and "monstrous" other people (which are not clinically "insane", just to make it clear) are regarding as being just the opposite. Either way, neither of those two camps will find a "level-playing" discussion field on this forum, on any internet forum, for that matter, because I'm afraid we're long passed that point. Hence why I believe that the admins of this forum should ban all politics-related talk.
- engineer_22 4y ago
  but politics are interesting and stimulating! Like, if it wasn't interesting, it wouldn't be politics. Nobody would talk about it. Lacking any controversy, HN would be a very stale place.
  - 0ct4via 4y ago
    There's plenty of controversy and discussion on HN without politics... it's far from stale, even with clickbait transphobic articles appearing recently.
    - engineer_22 4y ago
      So where do you draw the line between politics and secular humanist philosophy? I guess it's not clear from the title.....
      - 0ct4via 4y ago
        The title is irrelevant, only one point in the article -- teaching creationism in science classes -- is relevant to secular humanism, which decries religious dogma, and supports separation of church and state. The rest is purely loaded opines and bigotry. Speaking of which, any reason you accused me of being "hostile" by making a reasoned point, then delete it? Seems rather disingenuous...
        engineer_22 4y ago
        I was wrong.
  - paganel 4y ago
    > Lacking any controversy, HN would be a very stale place There's politics and then there's calling someone "insane" and "monstrous". Honestly, I don't see any way out of that. Yes, calling each other names in the name of politics would make any web forum less stale, I can definitely agree with that, but, again, I don't think that will solve anything.
    - engineer_22 4y ago
      Point taken
- threatofrain 4y ago
  > which are not clinically "insane", just to make it clear Btw, insanity is not a medical term. It's a term to describe your fitness in a legal context.
  - paganel 4y ago
    When you're calling someone as "insane" you're not hitting him/her with the legal context, but with the DSM context.
    - DanBC 4y ago
      Where is insanity in DSM?
    - threatofrain 4y ago
      There is no "clinical" or "DSM" context to insanity. Insanity is not a medical term.
      - paganel 4y ago
        Again, it is my strong opinion that the OP was using "insane" in its DSM-related form, i.e. its medical-related form. Yes, most probably today's medics (and today's DSM) has (have) become too prudish to have "insane" and "insanity" included in their official terms list, but that's another story.
fibvg 4y ago
Please could you explain why you believe this point of view to be monstrous and insane?

It's insane that this gets upvoted. Hacker News is turning truly monstrous.

by glogla 4y ago

It's insane that this gets upvoted. Hacker News is turning truly monstrous.

> It's insane that this gets upvoted. Hacker News should just just ban politics-related discussions altogether. What you find "insane" and "monstrous" other people (which are not clinically "insane", just to make it clear) are regarding as being just the opposite. Either way, neither of those two camps will find a "level-playing" discussion field on this forum, on any internet forum, for that matter, because I'm afraid we're long passed that point. Hence why I believe that the admins of this forum should ban all politics-related talk.

engineer_22 4y ago
but politics are interesting and stimulating! Like, if it wasn't interesting, it wouldn't be politics. Nobody would talk about it. Lacking any controversy, HN would be a very stale place.
- 0ct4via 4y ago
  There's plenty of controversy and discussion on HN without politics... it's far from stale, even with clickbait transphobic articles appearing recently.
  - engineer_22 4y ago
    So where do you draw the line between politics and secular humanist philosophy? I guess it's not clear from the title.....
    - 0ct4via 4y ago
      The title is irrelevant, only one point in the article -- teaching creationism in science classes -- is relevant to secular humanism, which decries religious dogma, and supports separation of church and state. The rest is purely loaded opines and bigotry. Speaking of which, any reason you accused me of being "hostile" by making a reasoned point, then delete it? Seems rather disingenuous...
      - engineer_22 4y ago
        I was wrong.
- paganel 4y ago
  > Lacking any controversy, HN would be a very stale place There's politics and then there's calling someone "insane" and "monstrous". Honestly, I don't see any way out of that. Yes, calling each other names in the name of politics would make any web forum less stale, I can definitely agree with that, but, again, I don't think that will solve anything.
  - engineer_22 4y ago
    Point taken
threatofrain 4y ago
> which are not clinically "insane", just to make it clear Btw, insanity is not a medical term. It's a term to describe your fitness in a legal context.
- paganel 4y ago
  When you're calling someone as "insane" you're not hitting him/her with the legal context, but with the DSM context.
  - DanBC 4y ago
    Where is insanity in DSM?
  - threatofrain 4y ago
    There is no "clinical" or "DSM" context to insanity. Insanity is not a medical term.
    - paganel 4y ago
      Again, it is my strong opinion that the OP was using "insane" in its DSM-related form, i.e. its medical-related form. Yes, most probably today's medics (and today's DSM) has (have) become too prudish to have "insane" and "insanity" included in their official terms list, but that's another story.

fibvg 4y ago

Please could you explain why you believe this point of view to be monstrous and insane?