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No, it does not. A post-truth era may be one in which truth & falsity are not absolute & the only choices. Relativity brings about the realization that two peop

No, it does not. A post-truth era may be one in which truth & falsity are not absolute & the only choices. Relativity brings about the realization that two people can witness the same event, obtain different measurements (usual example is in "empty" space where both start at the same velocity & distance to the event location, but one is in an accelerating reference frame relative to the other leading to different photon counts & "time" passage) & both be correct.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago
If you've got an experiment (either relativistic or quantum, or both) where two individuals can obtain different photon counts, I'd like to hear about it.
- JadeNB 4y ago
  > If you've got an experiment (either relativistic or quantum, or both) where two individuals can obtain different photon counts, I'd like to hear about it. The experiment could simply be measuring photon counts at a pre-agreed location after a pre-agreed duration, where the elapsed time is measured by a local clock. (Probably it is reasonable to argue that this is not a "reasonable" experiment, but it's beyond me to make rigorous the sense in which it should be excluded.)
  - dinosaurdynasty 4y ago
    There is stuff like the Unruh effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
    - downvotetruth 4y ago
      Description was trying to avoid the misnomer eponym ("Stigler's law").
ycombigator 4y ago
This example doesn't mean what you think it means.
Klinky 4y ago
I think it would be erroneous to try to apply concepts of micro-level phenomena to macro-level societal events. The levels of abstraction between the two likely turns that low-level ambiguity into background noise. For example, someone could never logically claim the photons they perceived indicted someone wasn't in front of their gun when they pulled the trigger, while everyone else in the vicinity states they clearly saw the person in front of the gun. There is not enough uncertainty around the behavior of photons for us to consider their explanation as truth.
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AnimalMuppet 4y ago

If you've got an experiment (either relativistic or quantum, or both) where two individuals can obtain different photon counts, I'd like to hear about it.

JadeNB 4y ago
> If you've got an experiment (either relativistic or quantum, or both) where two individuals can obtain different photon counts, I'd like to hear about it. The experiment could simply be measuring photon counts at a pre-agreed location after a pre-agreed duration, where the elapsed time is measured by a local clock. (Probably it is reasonable to argue that this is not a "reasonable" experiment, but it's beyond me to make rigorous the sense in which it should be excluded.)
- dinosaurdynasty 4y ago
  There is stuff like the Unruh effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unruh_effect
  - downvotetruth 4y ago
    Description was trying to avoid the misnomer eponym ("Stigler's law").

ycombigator 4y ago

This example doesn't mean what you think it means.

Klinky 4y ago

I think it would be erroneous to try to apply concepts of micro-level phenomena to macro-level societal events. The levels of abstraction between the two likely turns that low-level ambiguity into background noise. For example, someone could never logically claim the photons they perceived indicted someone wasn't in front of their gun when they pulled the trigger, while everyone else in the vicinity states they clearly saw the person in front of the gun. There is not enough uncertainty around the behavior of photons for us to consider their explanation as truth.

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