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> I'm starting to see ghastly echoes of this sort of thing as "MAP" ("minor-attracted persons," supplanting pedophile on the euphemism treadmill) becomes an acr

> I'm starting to see ghastly echoes of this sort of thing as "MAP" ("minor-attracted persons," supplanting pedophile on the euphemism treadmill) becomes an acronym I see more and more often here in the U.S., and the usual academics begin coming up with bloodless jargon describing their activities. Despite living in the US and being one of those terminally online people who spend too much time on HN and Reddit, your comment is the first time I've ever seen the term "MAP" in my life. I don't know what academics you're talking about, and I think I probably occupy an almost disjoint bubble from them. I don't read psychology papers or wherever that kind of stuff is found. What you're describing is disturbing and I hope it's not happening. I can't discount the possibility that I'm just out of touch with the places or communities where it is happening though.

wellthatsawrap1 4y ago
5555624 4y ago
>Despite living in the US and being one of those terminally online people who spend too much time on HN and Reddit, your comment is the first time I've ever seen the term "MAP" in my life. I first saw it a year ago, in The Washington Post, with regards to an ODU professor [1] I've seen it on both Fox News and/or CNN, as well. Recently, it was in the news because a Texas teacher was fired, "Stop calling them that. You're not allowed to label people like that. Stop it, Diego," the teacher can be heard saying in the video. "We are not going to call them that. We're going to call them MAPs. Minor Attracted Persons. So don't judge people just because they want to have sex with a 5-year-old." [2] [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/11/24/allyn-walker-odu-professor-resigns/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/11/24/allyn-wa... [2] https://www.insider.com/texas-teacher-faces-termination-a-video-discussing-minor-attracted-persons-2022-9 https://www.insider.com/texas-teacher-faces-termination-a-vi...
- tptacek 4y ago
  The WaPo article you cite is about a professor who was ousted in part for using the term. It uses the term "minor-attracted person" exclusively in quotes; it uses the term "pedophile" in quotes once, in a sentence about the word, but otherwise uses it naturally. It is not reasonable to take from that WaPo article the notion that "MAP" is an accepted term. You can easily search WaPo and find that the term "MAP" is used only in that article (again: about the term, and the fact that it cost someone their job), and that WaPo routinely uses the term "pedophile", quoting it only in stories where the allegations are ridiculous (like people reporting dads at playgrounds as suspected "pedophiles"). The Washington Post is a pretty powerful data point that the term "MAP" is not in fact in common use. It seems extraordinarily unlikely that it ever will be. (So far as I can tell, the New York Times has never once used the term, either).

wellthatsawrap1 4y ago

5555624 4y ago

>Despite living in the US and being one of those terminally online people who spend too much time on HN and Reddit, your comment is the first time I've ever seen the term "MAP" in my life. I first saw it a year ago, in The Washington Post, with regards to an ODU professor [1] I've seen it on both Fox News and/or CNN, as well. Recently, it was in the news because a Texas teacher was fired, "Stop calling them that. You're not allowed to label people like that. Stop it, Diego," the teacher can be heard saying in the video. "We are not going to call them that. We're going to call them MAPs. Minor Attracted Persons. So don't judge people just because they want to have sex with a 5-year-old." [2] [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/11/24/allyn-walker-odu-professor-resigns/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2021/11/24/allyn-wa... [2] https://www.insider.com/texas-teacher-faces-termination-a-video-discussing-minor-attracted-persons-2022-9 https://www.insider.com/texas-teacher-faces-termination-a-vi...

tptacek 4y ago
The WaPo article you cite is about a professor who was ousted in part for using the term. It uses the term "minor-attracted person" exclusively in quotes; it uses the term "pedophile" in quotes once, in a sentence about the word, but otherwise uses it naturally. It is not reasonable to take from that WaPo article the notion that "MAP" is an accepted term. You can easily search WaPo and find that the term "MAP" is used only in that article (again: about the term, and the fact that it cost someone their job), and that WaPo routinely uses the term "pedophile", quoting it only in stories where the allegations are ridiculous (like people reporting dads at playgrounds as suspected "pedophiles"). The Washington Post is a pretty powerful data point that the term "MAP" is not in fact in common use. It seems extraordinarily unlikely that it ever will be. (So far as I can tell, the New York Times has never once used the term, either).