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I drive a pickup truck. Like my dad, grandpa and uncles. Do you think there might be a genetic compent to my choice of vehicle? Its strongly suggested as such,

I drive a pickup truck. Like my dad, grandpa and uncles. Do you think there might be a genetic compent to my choice of vehicle? Its strongly suggested as such, according to you.

dj_mc_merlin 4y ago
I see your point, but choice of transportation vehicle is more obviously dependent on environment than intelligence.
- riversflow 4y ago
  Is it? You are supposing that people don't choose their environment.
  - jr200uk 4y ago
    What choice? You are supposing that such a thing exists.
zosima 4y ago
I think there is a strong genetic component for owning a pickup truck. Just like for dog ownership: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-44083-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-44083-9 Obviously, there is also a strong environmental factor. But lacking either, will probably result in no pickup truck.
briHass 4y ago
I have blue eyes, as does my mother and my two children. Do you think it is due to our similar upbringing and socioeconomic status? Maybe genetics plays a much larger role in intelligence than we currently think, it's just so complicated that (unlike eye color) we can't identify those genes yet.
- astrange 4y ago
  Almost all flamingos are pink. Do you think this is "genetic" the same way human eye colors are "genetic"? (It isn't.) > Maybe genetics plays a much larger role in intelligence than we currently think, it's just so complicated that (unlike eye color) we can't identify those genes yet. People telling you "genetics causes x" are committing abuses of notation if they don't include the counterfactual i.e. they are lying to you. Everything about you is 100% caused by genetics - because otherwise you'd be a gorilla. Everything about you is also 100% caused by the environment - because if a rock fell on your head you wouldn't have any "intelligence" after that.
  - glandium 4y ago
    For the curious, flamingos get their color from food, like salmon does.
savanaly 4y ago
Didn't they find some very crazy similarities in seemingly arbitrary lifestyle choices with identical twins that were separated at birth? I would rate the choice of vehicle the same way, in other words, possibly genetic.
johnp314 4y ago
The original topic under discussion is the impotence of being clever. It seems to me your cleverness (and that of others replying to the original comment) is demonstrating that.
- graymatters 4y ago
  LOL That’s a very clever observation! Do you feel impotent as the result?
bbryant 4y ago
Same here. Pickups for two generations. My wife however, big fan of sedans -- been a family trait for years. As for our kids though, both drive Caminos.

I drive a pickup truck. Like my dad, grandpa and uncles. Do you think there might be a genetic compent to my choice of vehicle? Its strongly suggested as such, according to you.

dj_mc_merlin 4y ago

I see your point, but choice of transportation vehicle is more obviously dependent on environment than intelligence.

riversflow 4y ago
Is it? You are supposing that people don't choose their environment.
- jr200uk 4y ago
  What choice? You are supposing that such a thing exists.

zosima 4y ago

I think there is a strong genetic component for owning a pickup truck. Just like for dog ownership: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-44083-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-44083-9 Obviously, there is also a strong environmental factor. But lacking either, will probably result in no pickup truck.

briHass 4y ago

I have blue eyes, as does my mother and my two children. Do you think it is due to our similar upbringing and socioeconomic status? Maybe genetics plays a much larger role in intelligence than we currently think, it's just so complicated that (unlike eye color) we can't identify those genes yet.

astrange 4y ago
Almost all flamingos are pink. Do you think this is "genetic" the same way human eye colors are "genetic"? (It isn't.) > Maybe genetics plays a much larger role in intelligence than we currently think, it's just so complicated that (unlike eye color) we can't identify those genes yet. People telling you "genetics causes x" are committing abuses of notation if they don't include the counterfactual i.e. they are lying to you. Everything about you is 100% caused by genetics - because otherwise you'd be a gorilla. Everything about you is also 100% caused by the environment - because if a rock fell on your head you wouldn't have any "intelligence" after that.
- glandium 4y ago
  For the curious, flamingos get their color from food, like salmon does.

savanaly 4y ago

Didn't they find some very crazy similarities in seemingly arbitrary lifestyle choices with identical twins that were separated at birth? I would rate the choice of vehicle the same way, in other words, possibly genetic.

johnp314 4y ago

The original topic under discussion is the impotence of being clever. It seems to me your cleverness (and that of others replying to the original comment) is demonstrating that.

graymatters 4y ago
LOL That’s a very clever observation! Do you feel impotent as the result?

bbryant 4y ago

Same here. Pickups for two generations. My wife however, big fan of sedans -- been a family trait for years. As for our kids though, both drive Caminos.