I think urbanists have a bit of a blind spot in this area. The typical experience on public transit in most places in the U.S. exceeds the typical American's th

I think urbanists have a bit of a blind spot in this area. The typical experience on public transit in most places in the U.S. exceeds the typical American's threshold for tolerating disorder. This can be hard for urbanists to see -- probably because they're more likely to be very high in openness, which just means their tolerance bars are shifted further to the right of the average person. > And anti-social behavior will problem actually go down as a proportion when there are more people on the subway. I think this also hints at something urbanists aren't very good at reckoning with, which is that people do not experience disorder as a per capita phenomenon. If a drug dealer lives on your block, then that's going to have a big impact on quality of life whether there are 500 people on your block or 50, even though, again, the per capita rates in those two scenarios are quite different. People have a proximity theory of crime, not a per capita one. That's why appeals to per capita differences in crime rates often fall flat.