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>Let's not mention ettercap that much, it was built by people with very questionable behaviour I mean, how far are we gonna take this type of logic, considerin

>Let's not mention ettercap that much, it was built by people with very questionable behaviour I mean, how far are we gonna take this type of logic, considering the foundations of statistics (eg: Chi-squared distribution) were invented by eugenicists? :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Pearson#Politics_and_eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Pearson#Politics_and_euge... At least they open sourced the code so it can be used by good people as well -- it's better to remove the RCEs and leverage them against your enemies than to keep the knowledge esoteric so that only the privileged can attack.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 4y ago
What is this weird jump to politics, eugenics nazis or whatever? You're the second person that went there. I just wanted people to know that ettercap is a tool written by people that can't be trusted when it comes to writing open source software. Will you run any tools made public by NSO or any other company like that???
- anigbrowl 4y ago
  You said it was built by sketchy people but didn't explain what people were supposed to conclude from that (though you have since mentioned 'bugdoors.' So people projected their own guesses onto it, thinking your moral terms (bad people) were a clue to the mysterious hidden subtext. You'd have been better off saying 'I don't trust ettercap, it was built by xxxx and seemingly innocuous code might exploit obscure vulnerabilities, backfiring severely on those who try to use it.'
- dontbenebby 4y ago
  > What is this weird jump to politics, eugenics nazis or whatever? You're the second person that went there. Two thirds is a supermajority in most democracies, so you're the weird one. >Will you run any tools made public by NSO or any other company like that??? Not only would I be ABSOLUTELY willing to use NSO's code (or anyone else's) to make a list, check it twice, then go out into the real world like the hit 1984 action film "Terminator" if I felt that was necessary to avert loss of innocent life and I felt that the local police, state police, federal bureau of investigation, and the national guard were all refusing to deal with the issue. (Though I'd do it from a VM so if they try to hack back, I can just roll back to a known good snapshot and save whatever they threw at me to possibly sell at a profit to fight another day. The United States of America (where I'm posting from for now) is a two party presidential republic, not a multiparty parliamentary democracy, human rights are not "political", and the mother's menu for abusers in a post COVID world is to with the program, or get in the ground with Jeffrey Epstein. There is no more "third way", and if you don't want some chicken fingers loving autist making comments _you_ are _choosing_ to _perceive_ as weird on Hacker News, be the change you want to see in the world and give said autist something better to do on a Saturday. - Greg.

rs_rs_rs_rs_rs 4y ago

What is this weird jump to politics, eugenics nazis or whatever? You're the second person that went there. I just wanted people to know that ettercap is a tool written by people that can't be trusted when it comes to writing open source software. Will you run any tools made public by NSO or any other company like that???

anigbrowl 4y ago
You said it was built by sketchy people but didn't explain what people were supposed to conclude from that (though you have since mentioned 'bugdoors.' So people projected their own guesses onto it, thinking your moral terms (bad people) were a clue to the mysterious hidden subtext. You'd have been better off saying 'I don't trust ettercap, it was built by xxxx and seemingly innocuous code might exploit obscure vulnerabilities, backfiring severely on those who try to use it.'
dontbenebby 4y ago
> What is this weird jump to politics, eugenics nazis or whatever? You're the second person that went there. Two thirds is a supermajority in most democracies, so you're the weird one. >Will you run any tools made public by NSO or any other company like that??? Not only would I be ABSOLUTELY willing to use NSO's code (or anyone else's) to make a list, check it twice, then go out into the real world like the hit 1984 action film "Terminator" if I felt that was necessary to avert loss of innocent life and I felt that the local police, state police, federal bureau of investigation, and the national guard were all refusing to deal with the issue. (Though I'd do it from a VM so if they try to hack back, I can just roll back to a known good snapshot and save whatever they threw at me to possibly sell at a profit to fight another day. The United States of America (where I'm posting from for now) is a two party presidential republic, not a multiparty parliamentary democracy, human rights are not "political", and the mother's menu for abusers in a post COVID world is to with the program, or get in the ground with Jeffrey Epstein. There is no more "third way", and if you don't want some chicken fingers loving autist making comments _you_ are _choosing_ to _perceive_ as weird on Hacker News, be the change you want to see in the world and give said autist something better to do on a Saturday. - Greg.