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StackOverflow also planning to switch from GoDaddy due to SOPA concerns.
- mekoka 15y agoActually, what surprises me is that SO would be registered with them in the first place.
- suhair 15y agoIt is registered way back in 2003. may be not many popular alternatives then.
- AgentConundrum 15y agoStackOverflow didn't exist until 2008, so I doubt Jeff & Joel registered the name in 2003. When they bought it off whoever first registered it, they could have easily moved it to someone else. ServerFault.com (by which I mean the domain, not the site) has only existed since 2009. Clearly they had the option not to go with GoDaddy then as well, just as they did with all the other SX domains.
- josephcooney 15y agoreally? I'm the guy that suggested the name 'stackoverflow.com' to Jeff, and at the time I suggested it it was NOT registered. see: http://jcooney.net/post/2010/08/26/Back-in-the-day-preferred-the-name-gosub10com-over-stackoverflowcom.aspx http://jcooney.net/post/2010/08/26/Back-in-the-day-preferred...
- mr-ron 15y agoRegistered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: STACKOVERFLOW.COM Created on: 26-Dec-03 Expires on: 26-Dec-14 Last Updated on: 30-Nov-10 Though its possible that it was registered in 03, someone let it expire, and then it was up for grabs again. Im not 100% certain how the 'Created on' value works
- foobarbazetc 15y agoWhy did anyone ever use GoDaddy in the first place? There are much better options out there. Dynadot, Moniker, Gandi, ... the list is endless.
- ceejayoz 15y agoGandi locks my Chase credit card each time I pay them. Using (ugh) PayPal is the only way I can use them.
- jws 15y agoThe only time American Express has called me has been twice on my Gandi payment. Makes you wonder about their fraud algorithms. Surely Amex can see I make the same payment every year, or maybe that is the mark of a patient and not greedy fraud. FWIW I haven't had any troubles in the last few years.
- dangrossman 15y agoMy bank used to lock my Visa card every month when my landlord charged my rent. Same day every month, same company every month, same amount every month. Every 5th of the month I'd have to call my bank and confirm that the charges weren't fraudulent to get it unlocked, or I'd end up at a grocery store unable to pay my bill. I put up with it because I was earning a ton of cash back having my rent charged to a rewards card.
- long 15y agoI've thought about doing this but I think my landlord only takes a check. How are you able to charge rent to a card? Did you sweet-talk the guy?
- dangrossman 15y ago> How are you able to charge rent to a card? Did you sweet-talk the guy? I was renting a townhome in a community owned by a large rental agency that did both residential and short-term business rentals, fully furnished homes at a higher rate. I'd guess accepting credit cards was more to cater to the business side, but they'd take them from any tenant that asked. Most landlords won't because they'd lose 1-3% of the rent to the transaction fees.
- k-mcgrady 15y agoI started moving away from GoDaddy recently. I'm sick of the up-selling when buying domains. I know it's how they make their money but I now use Hover and it is much quicker and simpler to purchase domains. I was also getting tired of GoDaddy's constant domain management changes. Every time I go there they have a new UI. Again Hover is A LOT simpler. I still haven't moved everything off but I am gradually doing it. And all my new domains are with Hover.
- sgaither 15y agoWow...this is like hearing that Github plans to quit Dreamweaver because it was feuding with Adobe.
- mekoka 15y agoNo it's not. Domain name registrars are a dime a dozen, people don't invest hours learning to use their panel, they also don't write "I know how to use GoDaddy" on a resume. As you can see, the switch from one to the next is trivial. People often procrastinate to do it because it's a bit of a pain, but it's simple enough that the motivation to do it is just one frustration away. It just shows that if you're about to express your unpopular political opinions as a business, at the risk of pissing off a good chunk of your customer base, you should make sure your product is so damn good and unique, that people will be compelled to use it despite their contempt for you. But in this case, people just went nah, fuck godaddy!
- holman 15y agoI just want to make it clear that none of us at GitHub have any plans of dropping our usage of Dreamweaver.
- zdgman 15y agoThis comment wins the internet for today. I wish it was at the top of the thread.
- ajays 15y agoWow... SO is still with GoDaddy? GoDaddy's position on SOPA has been clear since October; what took them so long?
- mythz 15y agoWhere has this been made clear? They may have written their statements in October, but waited till today to publish it: http://support.godaddy.com/godaddy/go-daddys-position-on-sopa/ http://support.godaddy.com/godaddy/go-daddys-position-on-sop... It's another sleazy move by GoDaddy (that wreaks of corruption) to wait till nearly the eve of the SOPA vote before making their stance and rationale public.
- jeltz 15y agoAnother possibility is that they wrote it a couple of days ago and backdated it to October to try to make it look like less of a panic move.
- ajays 15y agoHere's a link to an article mentioning that they announced support in October: http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2011/10/in-case-you-missed-it-godaddy-applauds-sopa/ http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2011/10/in-case-you-missed...
- ajays 15y agoSince I'm being downvoted, I figured I'd provide some links to back up my claim that GoDaddy's position has been clear from the beginning: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111029/07003216560/go-daddy-supports-e-parasite-legislation-even-though-its-own-site-is-dedicated-to-theft-property-under-terms-bill.shtml http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111029/07003216560/go-dad... http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2011/10/in-case-you-missed-it-godaddy-applauds-sopa/ http://blog.copyrightalliance.org/2011/10/in-case-you-missed... Anybody could have found these by doing a Google search.
- maeon3 15y agoStackoverflow for president... Woah there is an idea.
- moonlighter 15y agoI recently started to point all name servers to Amazon Route 53. Clean and super easy to use now that it's available in the AWS Management Console. GoDaddy has been reduced to a registrar only, all DNS is managed from AWS now. And good riddance of GoDaddy's crappy Domain Manager UI.
- markbao 15y agoI cannot believe how many people are using the worst domain registrar in existence, even if you don't consider SOPA support. Out of all of the domain registrars, why GoDaddy?
- rdouble 15y agoInertia. GoDaddy was great back when the other main option was Network Solutions. If you registered for multiple years, or simply forgot to transfer before the renewal period, it was easy to stay.
- commandar 15y agoNot to mention that even many reasonably technically inclined people don't realize that you don't have to wait until your expiration date to transfer to another registrar.
- thomasgerbe 15y agoBecause it's cheap, popular, and most people don't interact with their domain registrar aside from registration and renewal. Why do people buy clothes made in sweat shops or from chains that are terrible to it's employees? A lot of it just comes down to cost. And even if you know how terrible something is (morally or ethically), some people aren't willing to change.
- awt 15y agoI don't think markbao was referring to their morality in his post, simply their terrible, terrible usability. I think also cost is not the reason, especially for the low numbers we're talking about. I would say people use GoDaddy because of GoDaddy's successful online and on air advertising campaigns.
- thomasgerbe 15y ago"I think also cost is not the reason, especially for the low numbers we're talking about." While I agree that their campaigns have been effective, I tend to disagree that cost isn't an issue. Heck, even I was informed of other registrars a few years back when I was first starting to host my own sites but GoDaddy was cheaper than my webhost for domain registration. Plus easy to find coupon codes also give additional value. Why bother paying an extra 5-10 dollars when, for most people, there isn't much difference after the initial registration? (I ask that rhetorically)
- d_r 15y agoPerhaps off-topic, but after reading GoDaddy's letter, I am surprised that our discussions against SOPA don't focus on the root -- the fact that the legislation is presented in an incredibly misleading and vague manner. At face value, its purpose is to stop the foreign counterfeit drug/goods sellers -- you know, the same guys who spam us with "enlarge your..." and such offers. The same guys who pollute Google search results with "buy handbags" trash. Now suppose someone had asked you: "do you want legislation against these foreign illegal drug sellers?" Surely you'd say yes. Heck, I'd say yes. What reasonable person would oppose this? But the problem is that the legislation is presented as this, but is actually likely going to be used for other things (censoring online content, special interests of the movie industry, etc.) So when we write to our congresspeople and explain our concerns with SOPA, I wonder: do they think "Hmm, I am just protecting the internet from so-and-so baddies selling drugs. Why are all these tech people suddenly up in arms about this? Do they somehow not want to stop those baddies?" When we write, we say that we oppose SOPA. Would we be more effective if we asserted that we do hate those sellers and oppose SOPA because of its specific implications? Unless of course, the bad "side effects" are actually the main purpose and the "good" cause is just a very clever gimmick.
- jpdoctor 15y agoI don't think it's off-topic at all. What you are describing is how the topic is "framed", and is why companies pay large sums to lobbyists and PR firms.
- pork 15y ago> Now suppose someone had asked you: "do you want legislation against these foreign illegal drug sellers?" Surely you'd say yes. Heck, I'd say yes. Let me stop you there. I'd say no, because I feel that in many matters, especially those concerning the Internet, legislation is about as effective as politely asking the rain not to drip through your leaky roof.
- vidarh 15y agoEven for the sake of argument assuming legislation is the right answer here: The problem with SOPA is not so much what can be done to stop "bad guys", but how it can be done, namely without a court order, and only based on "reasonable belief". It is massively chilling by virtue of causing large liabilities if someone don't act, even if/when they don't or even can't know for sure if the claim made is true, while granting immunity if they do act. It creates a de facto assumption of guilt by creating a strong incentive to act without evidence of any wrongdoing.
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- vertr 15y agoI am not a fan of Godaddy. However, it is clear that Godaddy thrives on being controversial. We are giving them their greatest wish.
- kuahyeow 15y agoGoDaddy just upped the publicity of SOPA a whole lot. I wonder will this shine a light on SOPA within the mainstream.
- zdgman 15y agoDid StackOverflow actually comment on when the switch would occur? I am sure they will post about it but I see a bunch of large companies saying "we will switch". I don't see a lot of companies saying "we have switched". Proof or it didn't happen.
- ghurlman 15y agoPing whois over and over if you need proof... seems like an odd thing to assume they'd lie about.
- zdgman 15y agoWHOIS on stackoverflow right now shows its still with GoDaddy. I am not calling them liars but I do want to actually see them make the switch.
- jebblue 15y agoI want to see them apply logic and reason otherwise it might be difficult for me to continue to view them as a credible source of technical information. It will be interesting to see what choice they make.
- sidcool 15y agoGoDaddy changes their stance on SOPA.