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But it was though, the laptop had its chain of custody broken, evidence of tampering was later found and most of the emails on it couldn't be verified. No crimi

But it was though, the laptop had its chain of custody broken, evidence of tampering was later found and most of the emails on it couldn't be verified. No criminal activity by the Bidens was ever found. It should be impossible to look at this objectively and conclude that this wasn't a carefully timed misinformation campaign. It drives me mad that the right somehow turned this into a persuasive argument to people.

gregw2 4y ago
This post too is arguably misinformation, selectively reporting the findings that would cause you to distrust the laptop and not reporting the reasons to trust various things on the laptop. You could also summarize the findings as “no evidence of tampered emails or hacking was found on the laptop”. But you didn’t (and I wouldn’t) as that too would be disingenuous. Neither summary is a fair framing, particularly for techies. For at least some of the details, see the march 2022 Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-... or https://archive.ph/b1Ser https://archive.ph/b1Ser
- lyu07282 4y ago
  My post? It was basically a summary of Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... But let me guess Wikipedia is also part of the fake news media?
  - sjwalter 4y ago
  - gregw2 4y ago
    I don’t follow this closely, but the Wikipedia article is way more biased and selective in its summary/presentation of facts than the Washington Post article I linked to. It’s a shame. Wikipedia like real news is only as good as the effort and values put into it.
- throwaway35i2 4y ago
  This isn't a primary source (there are no links to the raw data for analysis) here so this post too is arguably misinformation, as it's selectively reporting findings.
koolba 4y ago
> But it was though, the laptop had its chain of custody broken, evidence of tampering was later found and most of the emails on it couldn't be verified. Third parties on the emails have come forward to verify some of the emails. > No criminal activity by the Bidens was ever found. Hunter Biden is guilty of lying on a federal firearms application. For starters they should throw the book at him for that since Democrats are “tough on guns” right? The corruption angle has never been fully investigated either. The whole Ukraine do nothing job was clearly payment for access to his father. We’ll see what comes up when they finally look into it next Congress. > It should be impossible to look at this objectively and conclude that this wasn't a carefully timed misinformation campaign. Just because something has a political angle doesn’t mean it’s immediately false. > It drives me mad that the right somehow turned this into a persuasive argument to people. The blinders worn by the half the left, and forced onto the eyes of the other half, are a much worse problem.
- jasonlotito 4y ago
  Innocent until proven guilty. And again, the laptop is meaningless. Hunter is being investigated by the FBI. If the house wants to spend it’s time investigating a single individual fine I guess. But if influence of someone not in office being investigated is going to open the door wide to Trump and his kids.
  - koolba 4y ago
    > Innocent until proven guilty. And again, the laptop is meaningless. Innocent until proven guilty doesn’t mean the public cannot discuss the matter or present it’s opinion on the legality. The laptop isn’t meaningless. It’s a data dump of evidence of guilt. Everything from brandishing an illegally obtained firearm while under the influence of narcotics to admitting to taking a cut of deals on behalf of his father (“10% for the big guy”). > Hunter is being investigated by the FBI. If the house wants to spend it’s time investigating a single individual fine I guess. The House absolutely should look into these allegations. Because till now nobody had taken them seriously. > But if influence of someone not in office being investigated is going to open the door wide to Trump and his kids. The Trump hate is so strong that the left cannot even admit an investigation of corruption should be done into a meth addict who was clearly selling influence to his father without some kind of whataboutism. If there was actual Trump corruption, him and his whole family would be in prison by now. They’ve been investigating him non stop since 2015. But they haven’t found anything worthy of charges.

gregw2 4y ago

This post too is arguably misinformation, selectively reporting the findings that would cause you to distrust the laptop and not reporting the reasons to trust various things on the laptop. You could also summarize the findings as “no evidence of tampered emails or hacking was found on the laptop”. But you didn’t (and I wouldn’t) as that too would be disingenuous. Neither summary is a fair framing, particularly for techies. For at least some of the details, see the march 2022 Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-... or https://archive.ph/b1Ser https://archive.ph/b1Ser

lyu07282 4y ago
My post? It was basically a summary of Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... But let me guess Wikipedia is also part of the fake news media?
- sjwalter 4y ago
- gregw2 4y ago
  I don’t follow this closely, but the Wikipedia article is way more biased and selective in its summary/presentation of facts than the Washington Post article I linked to. It’s a shame. Wikipedia like real news is only as good as the effort and values put into it.
throwaway35i2 4y ago
This isn't a primary source (there are no links to the raw data for analysis) here so this post too is arguably misinformation, as it's selectively reporting findings.

koolba 4y ago

> But it was though, the laptop had its chain of custody broken, evidence of tampering was later found and most of the emails on it couldn't be verified. Third parties on the emails have come forward to verify some of the emails. > No criminal activity by the Bidens was ever found. Hunter Biden is guilty of lying on a federal firearms application. For starters they should throw the book at him for that since Democrats are “tough on guns” right? The corruption angle has never been fully investigated either. The whole Ukraine do nothing job was clearly payment for access to his father. We’ll see what comes up when they finally look into it next Congress. > It should be impossible to look at this objectively and conclude that this wasn't a carefully timed misinformation campaign. Just because something has a political angle doesn’t mean it’s immediately false. > It drives me mad that the right somehow turned this into a persuasive argument to people. The blinders worn by the half the left, and forced onto the eyes of the other half, are a much worse problem.

jasonlotito 4y ago
Innocent until proven guilty. And again, the laptop is meaningless. Hunter is being investigated by the FBI. If the house wants to spend it’s time investigating a single individual fine I guess. But if influence of someone not in office being investigated is going to open the door wide to Trump and his kids.
- koolba 4y ago
  > Innocent until proven guilty. And again, the laptop is meaningless. Innocent until proven guilty doesn’t mean the public cannot discuss the matter or present it’s opinion on the legality. The laptop isn’t meaningless. It’s a data dump of evidence of guilt. Everything from brandishing an illegally obtained firearm while under the influence of narcotics to admitting to taking a cut of deals on behalf of his father (“10% for the big guy”). > Hunter is being investigated by the FBI. If the house wants to spend it’s time investigating a single individual fine I guess. The House absolutely should look into these allegations. Because till now nobody had taken them seriously. > But if influence of someone not in office being investigated is going to open the door wide to Trump and his kids. The Trump hate is so strong that the left cannot even admit an investigation of corruption should be done into a meth addict who was clearly selling influence to his father without some kind of whataboutism. If there was actual Trump corruption, him and his whole family would be in prison by now. They’ve been investigating him non stop since 2015. But they haven’t found anything worthy of charges.