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It's only amusing if you don't really believe in the rule of law. If the allegations from the article are true, there was probably tortuous interference, briber

It's only amusing if you don't really believe in the rule of law. If the allegations from the article are true, there was probably tortuous interference, bribery, criminal threats, as well as a whole slew of broken consumer protection laws at the very least. What you say is akin to saying it's amusing to see a chess player beaten in a game because the opponent just took all of his pieces and put them in his pocket, and bribed the judge to look the other way. What exactly is amusing about that? I really don't understand what kind of world people who make statements like this want to live in.

brosinante 4y ago
It's amusing to see the (perceived) David beat the (perceived) Goliath. It's not neccesarily fair, or nice, but punching (perceiv-ably?) up is funny.
- fastball 4y ago
  Anyone who perceives Chinese sellers as David when it comes to e-commerce hasn't been paying attention for at least a decade.
LadyCailin 4y ago
Most capitalists don’t believe in rule of law, only rule of “the free market”, at least when things are going their way.
- mancerayder 4y ago
  We're all capitalists here, I suspect - I mean does anyone in this message thread - a single person - advocate for state ownership of all means of production and then centralised controlled distribution of goods and services? I didn't think so. I think the term you're looking for is laissez-faire capitalists, of which there could be a few. Most people support some degree of regulatory control. We should stop with "you're either an X or a Y". That might be true on TV or on Twitter. It is not true in real life.
  - forgetfreeman 4y ago
    Sorry, you only yet to be a capitalist if you actually own the means of production. Otherwise you're just a wage slave with Stockholm Syndrome. And yeah, there is at least one person in this thread that unambiguously supports state ownership of production. If that isn't you you get to rationalize the consumption of non-renewable resources in a finite system for production of utterly fatuous bullshit like the fitbit-for-your-dong (I can't be assed to look it up).
  - marci 4y ago
    Ah... the internets... Read the first line, thought "How could they be so wrong?". Then read the second line, thought "Oh... you got me, that was a funny joke". And now thinking "Oh... maybe they're serious, which would make this an hilarious case of 'do what I (maybe?) say in real life, not what I do on TV, Twitter, or HN' "
r_hoods_ghost 4y ago
Good to see a capitalist standing up for regulation of marketplaces for once..
- vulcan01 4y ago
  I'm not sure what the confusion is here. Capitalism is not anarchism. Capitalists generally recognize the value of contracts, do they not?
  - forgetfreeman 4y ago
    They also recognize the value of circumventing or wholly ignoring environmental protections laws, labor laws, anti-trust laws, taxation etc...
markdown 4y ago
> What you say is akin to saying it's amusing to see a chess player beaten in a game because the opponent just took all of his pieces and put them in his pocket, and bribed the judge to look the other way. What exactly is amusing about that? The US does this all over the world. They will just cut off entire countries if they don't follow their banking rules, for example.
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> It's only amusing if you don't really believe in the rule of law The exact same companies that were lobbying against consumer protection and antitrust laws, unions busting, and convicted of conspiracy to supress wages, are now asking for government to step in because Chinese competition is breaking the same laws. Definately some hypocracy and now that the shoe is on the other foot, people they shafted previously are enjoying some shaudenfruede.
- Psychoshy_bc1q 4y ago
  *Schadenfreude
- googlryas 4y ago
  This dude who designed a massage gun did all that? Busy boy!

brosinante 4y ago

It's amusing to see the (perceived) David beat the (perceived) Goliath. It's not neccesarily fair, or nice, but punching (perceiv-ably?) up is funny.

fastball 4y ago
Anyone who perceives Chinese sellers as David when it comes to e-commerce hasn't been paying attention for at least a decade.

LadyCailin 4y ago

Most capitalists don’t believe in rule of law, only rule of “the free market”, at least when things are going their way.

mancerayder 4y ago
We're all capitalists here, I suspect - I mean does anyone in this message thread - a single person - advocate for state ownership of all means of production and then centralised controlled distribution of goods and services? I didn't think so. I think the term you're looking for is laissez-faire capitalists, of which there could be a few. Most people support some degree of regulatory control. We should stop with "you're either an X or a Y". That might be true on TV or on Twitter. It is not true in real life.
- forgetfreeman 4y ago
  Sorry, you only yet to be a capitalist if you actually own the means of production. Otherwise you're just a wage slave with Stockholm Syndrome. And yeah, there is at least one person in this thread that unambiguously supports state ownership of production. If that isn't you you get to rationalize the consumption of non-renewable resources in a finite system for production of utterly fatuous bullshit like the fitbit-for-your-dong (I can't be assed to look it up).
- marci 4y ago
  Ah... the internets... Read the first line, thought "How could they be so wrong?". Then read the second line, thought "Oh... you got me, that was a funny joke". And now thinking "Oh... maybe they're serious, which would make this an hilarious case of 'do what I (maybe?) say in real life, not what I do on TV, Twitter, or HN' "

r_hoods_ghost 4y ago

Good to see a capitalist standing up for regulation of marketplaces for once..

vulcan01 4y ago
I'm not sure what the confusion is here. Capitalism is not anarchism. Capitalists generally recognize the value of contracts, do they not?
- forgetfreeman 4y ago
  They also recognize the value of circumventing or wholly ignoring environmental protections laws, labor laws, anti-trust laws, taxation etc...

markdown 4y ago

> What you say is akin to saying it's amusing to see a chess player beaten in a game because the opponent just took all of his pieces and put them in his pocket, and bribed the judge to look the other way. What exactly is amusing about that? The US does this all over the world. They will just cut off entire countries if they don't follow their banking rules, for example.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

> It's only amusing if you don't really believe in the rule of law The exact same companies that were lobbying against consumer protection and antitrust laws, unions busting, and convicted of conspiracy to supress wages, are now asking for government to step in because Chinese competition is breaking the same laws. Definately some hypocracy and now that the shoe is on the other foot, people they shafted previously are enjoying some shaudenfruede.

Psychoshy_bc1q 4y ago
*Schadenfreude
googlryas 4y ago
This dude who designed a massage gun did all that? Busy boy!