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The EU is going dramatically overboard with privacy rights (aka GDPR). It's causing a lot of dont-talk-to-your-neighbor-because-you-might-break-privacy-laws iss

The EU is going dramatically overboard with privacy rights (aka GDPR). It's causing a lot of dont-talk-to-your-neighbor-because-you-might-break-privacy-laws issues, and causing prices to rise across the board.

eternityforest 4y ago
And I kind of blame the tech community for it.
- nickpp 4y ago
  The tech angle was just an excuse. The real reason was to protect old European money scared by the newcomers.
  - eternityforest 4y ago
    Maybe partly, but I'm pretty sure it's grassroots. The tech community loves privacy and is willing to accept large amounts of cost and inconvenience for it, to the point of many appearing to view tech as a net negative due to the spying.
    - nickpp 4y ago
      The great majority of people do not care about "privacy" and gladly give it away for something as frivolous as Facebook or TikTok. So it wasn't a democratic process that gave birth to GDPR. Now tech is pretty underrepresented in EU, but old money is not.
      - eternityforest 4y ago
        The great majority of people in general, myself included, seem to not care about privacy all that much, although they say they do, and at least I personally care about right to encrypt and truthful advertising. The tech community is different though. And public perception of GDPR is heavily influenced by tech bloggers, hardly anyone else thinks or talks about this stuff. Could be all about old money, but programmers sure seem to love it.
        nickpp 4y ago
        > programmers sure seem to love it Unless they have to implement it. It sure is a pain! :)))
M2Ys4U 4y ago
>It's causing a lot of dont-talk-to-your-neighbor-because-you-might-break-privacy-laws issues Well that's explicitly out of scope of the GDPR, so it shouldn't cause those issues. Article 2(2): >This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data [...] by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity and even if that wasn't the case, unless you're performing automated processing or using a filing system, it's out of scope due to Article 2(1) as well.
- personomas 4y ago
  not literally your neighbor, just general privacy fears, and cultural stigmas that every person deserves the right to unending privacy

eternityforest 4y ago

And I kind of blame the tech community for it.

nickpp 4y ago
The tech angle was just an excuse. The real reason was to protect old European money scared by the newcomers.
- eternityforest 4y ago
  Maybe partly, but I'm pretty sure it's grassroots. The tech community loves privacy and is willing to accept large amounts of cost and inconvenience for it, to the point of many appearing to view tech as a net negative due to the spying.
  - nickpp 4y ago
    The great majority of people do not care about "privacy" and gladly give it away for something as frivolous as Facebook or TikTok. So it wasn't a democratic process that gave birth to GDPR. Now tech is pretty underrepresented in EU, but old money is not.
    - eternityforest 4y ago
      The great majority of people in general, myself included, seem to not care about privacy all that much, although they say they do, and at least I personally care about right to encrypt and truthful advertising. The tech community is different though. And public perception of GDPR is heavily influenced by tech bloggers, hardly anyone else thinks or talks about this stuff. Could be all about old money, but programmers sure seem to love it.
      - nickpp 4y ago
        > programmers sure seem to love it Unless they have to implement it. It sure is a pain! :)))

M2Ys4U 4y ago

>It's causing a lot of dont-talk-to-your-neighbor-because-you-might-break-privacy-laws issues Well that's explicitly out of scope of the GDPR, so it shouldn't cause those issues. Article 2(2): >This Regulation does not apply to the processing of personal data [...] by a natural person in the course of a purely personal or household activity and even if that wasn't the case, unless you're performing automated processing or using a filing system, it's out of scope due to Article 2(1) as well.

personomas 4y ago
not literally your neighbor, just general privacy fears, and cultural stigmas that every person deserves the right to unending privacy