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They had the former white house press secretary suspended for simply mentioning the hunter biden laptop, was that against the ToS?

by beaned 4y ago

tomrod 4y ago
If the story was misinformation, why would the sharer's former or current job matter?
- knewter 4y ago
  The suppression was the misinformation
- chrisbaker98 4y ago
  The Hunter Biden story wasn't misinformation.
  - Sightline 4y ago
    Yes it was, do you not remember everyone being 100% certain it had CP?
    - chrisbaker98 4y ago
      What? No, I don't remember that; this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say the laptop had CP on it. EDIT: In fact, let's not rely on our memories. Here's the original NY Post story, the one which you weren't allowed to share on Twitter: https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden... This article doesn't make any kind of allegations about CP. Why are you making things up?
      - Sightline 4y ago
        https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-laptop-qanon-conspiracy-theories-2020-election-1540173 https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-laptop-qanon-conspirac... "The conservative radio host Wayne Root claimed without evidence in a tweet shared tens of thousands of times that Hunter Biden's laptop contains videos of him sexually abusing Chinese children." That's just one article, I remember seeing many YouTube comments and 4chan posts about it, which could suggest they were bots pushing a narrative.
    - yucky 4y ago
      That was one blogger and a handful of commenters on 4chan, by your own admission. Could you edit your comment to remove the word "everyone" since that is clearly not accurate? The Hunter Biden story is, and has always been, about him selling access to his father to Ukrainian powerbrokers so that what we're seeing unfold now over there would be possible. His claims to be saving "10% for the Big Guy" clearly allude to money being kicked back to his dad the Vice President at the time, and current man in charge of delivering billions of dollars to those same powerbrokers in Ukraine now. This is what the investigation is about. Nobody cares if Hunter was a drug addict or a douchebag it's always been about the above.
      - Sightline 4y ago
        No I'm not changing my comment. I get the feeling you'd shift the goalposts no matter how much proof I show. Posted today: https://twitter.com/JoanneRansing/status/1598963377984135183 https://twitter.com/JoanneRansing/status/1598963377984135183 "Hunter Biden had sex with his niece Natalie. His dead brother's underage daughter - he was also banging her Mom. Will they manage to keep this video secret forever? Lots of people have seen it including me." https://twitter.com/kuckieman/status/1598895748636372992 https://twitter.com/kuckieman/status/1598895748636372992 "One question, Are you ok with the pictures of Hunter Biden and clearly underage girls? You and Hunter are the problem." https://twitter.com/wokeantag0nist/status/1599015273809735680 https://twitter.com/wokeantag0nist/status/159901527380973568... "Hunter had sex with underage girls and used his dad to broker deals against America’s best interest, “ what’s the big heal lolz” congratulations you’re dumb and pathetic enough to be Biden’s next diversity hire"
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        tomrod 4y ago
        None of these are proof? Or is truth whatever a Twitter mob decides it to be?
        yucky 4y ago
        I don't understand what random tweets from nobodies have to do with what we're discussing.
  - lyu07282 4y ago
    But it was though, the laptop had its chain of custody broken, evidence of tampering was later found and most of the emails on it couldn't be verified. No criminal activity by the Bidens was ever found. It should be impossible to look at this objectively and conclude that this wasn't a carefully timed misinformation campaign. It drives me mad that the right somehow turned this into a persuasive argument to people.
    - gregw2 4y ago
      This post too is arguably misinformation, selectively reporting the findings that would cause you to distrust the laptop and not reporting the reasons to trust various things on the laptop. You could also summarize the findings as “no evidence of tampered emails or hacking was found on the laptop”. But you didn’t (and I wouldn’t) as that too would be disingenuous. Neither summary is a fair framing, particularly for techies. For at least some of the details, see the march 2022 Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-... or https://archive.ph/b1Ser https://archive.ph/b1Ser
      - lyu07282 4y ago
        My post? It was basically a summary of Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... But let me guess Wikipedia is also part of the fake news media?
        sjwalter 4y ago
        gregw2 4y ago
        I don’t follow this closely, but the Wikipedia article is way more biased and selective in its summary/presentation of facts than the Washington Post article I linked to. It’s a shame. Wikipedia like real news is only as good as the effort and values put into it.

They had the former white house press secretary suspended for simply mentioning the hunter biden laptop, was that against the ToS?

by beaned 4y ago

They had the former white house press secretary suspended for simply mentioning the hunter biden laptop, was that against the ToS?

tomrod 4y ago

If the story was misinformation, why would the sharer's former or current job matter?

knewter 4y ago
The suppression was the misinformation
chrisbaker98 4y ago
The Hunter Biden story wasn't misinformation.
- Sightline 4y ago
  Yes it was, do you not remember everyone being 100% certain it had CP?
  - chrisbaker98 4y ago
    What? No, I don't remember that; this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say the laptop had CP on it. EDIT: In fact, let's not rely on our memories. Here's the original NY Post story, the one which you weren't allowed to share on Twitter: https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden... This article doesn't make any kind of allegations about CP. Why are you making things up?
    - Sightline 4y ago
      https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-laptop-qanon-conspiracy-theories-2020-election-1540173 https://www.newsweek.com/hunter-biden-laptop-qanon-conspirac... "The conservative radio host Wayne Root claimed without evidence in a tweet shared tens of thousands of times that Hunter Biden's laptop contains videos of him sexually abusing Chinese children." That's just one article, I remember seeing many YouTube comments and 4chan posts about it, which could suggest they were bots pushing a narrative.
  - yucky 4y ago
    That was one blogger and a handful of commenters on 4chan, by your own admission. Could you edit your comment to remove the word "everyone" since that is clearly not accurate? The Hunter Biden story is, and has always been, about him selling access to his father to Ukrainian powerbrokers so that what we're seeing unfold now over there would be possible. His claims to be saving "10% for the Big Guy" clearly allude to money being kicked back to his dad the Vice President at the time, and current man in charge of delivering billions of dollars to those same powerbrokers in Ukraine now. This is what the investigation is about. Nobody cares if Hunter was a drug addict or a douchebag it's always been about the above.
    - Sightline 4y ago
      No I'm not changing my comment. I get the feeling you'd shift the goalposts no matter how much proof I show. Posted today: https://twitter.com/JoanneRansing/status/1598963377984135183 https://twitter.com/JoanneRansing/status/1598963377984135183 "Hunter Biden had sex with his niece Natalie. His dead brother's underage daughter - he was also banging her Mom. Will they manage to keep this video secret forever? Lots of people have seen it including me." https://twitter.com/kuckieman/status/1598895748636372992 https://twitter.com/kuckieman/status/1598895748636372992 "One question, Are you ok with the pictures of Hunter Biden and clearly underage girls? You and Hunter are the problem." https://twitter.com/wokeantag0nist/status/1599015273809735680 https://twitter.com/wokeantag0nist/status/159901527380973568... "Hunter had sex with underage girls and used his dad to broker deals against America’s best interest, “ what’s the big heal lolz” congratulations you’re dumb and pathetic enough to be Biden’s next diversity hire"
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      - tomrod 4y ago
        None of these are proof? Or is truth whatever a Twitter mob decides it to be?
      - yucky 4y ago
        I don't understand what random tweets from nobodies have to do with what we're discussing.
- lyu07282 4y ago
  But it was though, the laptop had its chain of custody broken, evidence of tampering was later found and most of the emails on it couldn't be verified. No criminal activity by the Bidens was ever found. It should be impossible to look at this objectively and conclude that this wasn't a carefully timed misinformation campaign. It drives me mad that the right somehow turned this into a persuasive argument to people.
  - gregw2 4y ago
    This post too is arguably misinformation, selectively reporting the findings that would cause you to distrust the laptop and not reporting the reasons to trust various things on the laptop. You could also summarize the findings as “no evidence of tampered emails or hacking was found on the laptop”. But you didn’t (and I wouldn’t) as that too would be disingenuous. Neither summary is a fair framing, particularly for techies. For at least some of the details, see the march 2022 Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-... or https://archive.ph/b1Ser https://archive.ph/b1Ser
    - lyu07282 4y ago
      My post? It was basically a summary of Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controvers... But let me guess Wikipedia is also part of the fake news media?
      - sjwalter 4y ago
      - gregw2 4y ago
        I don’t follow this closely, but the Wikipedia article is way more biased and selective in its summary/presentation of facts than the Washington Post article I linked to. It’s a shame. Wikipedia like real news is only as good as the effort and values put into it.