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How am I missing the point? The point: SOPA is bad because it allows the US to censor DNS results. My point: GoDaddy supporting SOPA should surprise no one, a

How am I missing the point? The point: SOPA is bad because it allows the US to censor DNS results. My point: GoDaddy supporting SOPA should surprise no one, and anyone "morally outraged" about censorship should already know better than to use GoDaddy, because they've repeatedly censored domains, Unilaterally, Voluntarily, for DNS around the World. Which part am I missing? I've genuinely asked 4 times now and I get silent downvotes and dismissive replies like "you're missing the point".

marshray 15y ago
OK. This is just my perspective. The article is "GoDaddy's SOPA Support Sparks Calls for Boycotts and Domain Transfers". It's mainly about the phenomenon of people transferring their domains from GoDaddy and the boycott that's gaining momentum. Reviewing your comments, you seem to be making the point repeatedly that basically "GoDaddy sucks under normal circumstances and no one should be using them anyway". I will admit the same thought has occurred to me. But I didn't post it as a comment. Here's why: 1. It's negative and not in a 'constructive criticism' kind of way. More of like "aren't you dumb". 2. It doesn't seem like it will provoke any useful discussion. The main plausible answers are "OK, yeah" or "no they don't suck". In the first case the agreement is uninteresting. In the second case it becomes a simple disagreement about the quality of GoDaddy's service, which doesn't relate to the topic of the article anyway. 3. Your point that GoDaddy "repeatedly censored domains, Unilaterally, Voluntarily, for DNS around the World" could be adding something mildly interesting. But you've offered no references or links to back up this claim and you seem to be repeating it over and over more and more insistently. 4. A lot of HN readers probably do use GoDaddy. We needn't judge them for it as choosing a domain registrar is not supposed to be an act of great consequence under normal circumstances. Yet you seem to be basically accusing them of hypocrisy. My impression of HN is that people are trying their darndest to see it not turn into another Slashdot. They're trying to be pretty selective so if your comment doesn't get the love you were hoping, just give it a rest. It's happened to me too.
- drivebyacct2 15y ago
  1. Heh, maybe you're right, people just don't like the hypocrisy or irony that I'm pointing out, but, either way, I'm tired of this moral aggrandizing with everyone acting like SOPA is a cut throat issue when GoDaddy has a history of not giving a shit about their customers' rights in regards to censorship. 2. Again, everyone wants to boil my comments down to GoDaddy sucks, even though that was not even featured in the post you're replying to. It's extremely straight forward about the hypocrisy of this moral crusade everyone is on. 3. The other subthread I commented in has a Google search result page for "site:news.ycombinator.com godaddy". There are pages and pages of horror stories and the top three involve DNS backlisting of legitimate sites unilaterally by GoDaddy. I don't know how everyone "forgot" these as they're usually commonplace in discussions of GoDaddy, but I suppose I could cite my sources better. At this point I'm just burnt out and want to clarify my position. 4. I again refuse to accept this excuse of "normal circumstances". The last several batch of them that have been posted on HN have even acknowledged that they thought, "Well I was just sure it couldn't happen to little ole me!!" and then it did. It takes so incredibly little effort to transfer domains to someone else who is as cheap or a whole dollar a year more expensive. I dunna.

marshray 15y ago

OK. This is just my perspective. The article is "GoDaddy's SOPA Support Sparks Calls for Boycotts and Domain Transfers". It's mainly about the phenomenon of people transferring their domains from GoDaddy and the boycott that's gaining momentum. Reviewing your comments, you seem to be making the point repeatedly that basically "GoDaddy sucks under normal circumstances and no one should be using them anyway". I will admit the same thought has occurred to me. But I didn't post it as a comment. Here's why: 1. It's negative and not in a 'constructive criticism' kind of way. More of like "aren't you dumb". 2. It doesn't seem like it will provoke any useful discussion. The main plausible answers are "OK, yeah" or "no they don't suck". In the first case the agreement is uninteresting. In the second case it becomes a simple disagreement about the quality of GoDaddy's service, which doesn't relate to the topic of the article anyway. 3. Your point that GoDaddy "repeatedly censored domains, Unilaterally, Voluntarily, for DNS around the World" could be adding something mildly interesting. But you've offered no references or links to back up this claim and you seem to be repeating it over and over more and more insistently. 4. A lot of HN readers probably do use GoDaddy. We needn't judge them for it as choosing a domain registrar is not supposed to be an act of great consequence under normal circumstances. Yet you seem to be basically accusing them of hypocrisy. My impression of HN is that people are trying their darndest to see it not turn into another Slashdot. They're trying to be pretty selective so if your comment doesn't get the love you were hoping, just give it a rest. It's happened to me too.

drivebyacct2 15y ago
1. Heh, maybe you're right, people just don't like the hypocrisy or irony that I'm pointing out, but, either way, I'm tired of this moral aggrandizing with everyone acting like SOPA is a cut throat issue when GoDaddy has a history of not giving a shit about their customers' rights in regards to censorship. 2. Again, everyone wants to boil my comments down to GoDaddy sucks, even though that was not even featured in the post you're replying to. It's extremely straight forward about the hypocrisy of this moral crusade everyone is on. 3. The other subthread I commented in has a Google search result page for "site:news.ycombinator.com godaddy". There are pages and pages of horror stories and the top three involve DNS backlisting of legitimate sites unilaterally by GoDaddy. I don't know how everyone "forgot" these as they're usually commonplace in discussions of GoDaddy, but I suppose I could cite my sources better. At this point I'm just burnt out and want to clarify my position. 4. I again refuse to accept this excuse of "normal circumstances". The last several batch of them that have been posted on HN have even acknowledged that they thought, "Well I was just sure it couldn't happen to little ole me!!" and then it did. It takes so incredibly little effort to transfer domains to someone else who is as cheap or a whole dollar a year more expensive. I dunna.