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Edward Snowden swears allegiance to Russia and receives passport, lawyer says

7 points by TimTheTinker 4y ago

TimTheTinker 4y ago
https://archive.ph/oS0EX https://archive.ph/oS0EX
DerekL 4y ago
> [Snowden] would not be subject to the partial military mobilization that Putin had decreed days before, since only men with previous military experience were being called up. Does experience in foreign armies count? He was in the U.S. Army, but left after six months after breaking his legs during training.
- rasz 4y ago
  The part you are citing is obvious lie anyway, plenty of mobiks have zero prior military training. ru were grabbing people off the street, schools, setup ambushes in apartment building lobbies, its all on video. Here students kidnapped/mobilized straight from school: https://twitter.com/mediazzzona/status/1572907342496251904 https://twitter.com/mediazzzona/status/1572907342496251904
jmpman 4y ago
Snowden for Putin’s meat grinder. That’s what he deserves for betraying his country.
- TimTheTinker 4y ago
  When did HN turn on him? He's had a tremendous amount of support here since 2013. What he revealed brought about significant positive reforms in the US, both in the public and private sectors
  - 1attice 4y ago
    I don't know if one comment counts as 'turning', but, a-propos of nothing, any authoritarian moment involves the reevaluation of previous dissident heroes
    - jmpman 4y ago
      Snowden crossed the line in what he released. US spying on China. How did that help him reveal the domestic spying problem? It didn’t, and wasn’t required. Many other disclosures were similarly not required, and questionable of a “patriot”. Instead, a foreign agent, revealing international spying, and trying to save his skin by also revealing domestic spying, matches Snowden’s actions. Get to be a Russian agent, and a celebrity. Best of both worlds. F him. If it only revealed the domestic spying, I might praise him. And my attitude has not changed since Snowden’s first disclosure.
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Proven 4y ago
So what? It's not his fault the US didn't let him go elsewhere. And this isn't worse than his previous situation. He wouldn't have to do this if crimes he uncovered were properly prosecuted and punished.

7 points by TimTheTinker 4y ago

https://archive.ph/oS0EX https://archive.ph/oS0EX

> [Snowden] would not be subject to the partial military mobilization that Putin had decreed days before, since only men with previous military experience were being called up. Does experience in foreign armies count? He was in the U.S. Army, but left after six months after breaking his legs during training.

rasz 4y ago
The part you are citing is obvious lie anyway, plenty of mobiks have zero prior military training. ru were grabbing people off the street, schools, setup ambushes in apartment building lobbies, its all on video. Here students kidnapped/mobilized straight from school: https://twitter.com/mediazzzona/status/1572907342496251904 https://twitter.com/mediazzzona/status/1572907342496251904

jmpman 4y ago

Snowden for Putin’s meat grinder. That’s what he deserves for betraying his country.

TimTheTinker 4y ago
When did HN turn on him? He's had a tremendous amount of support here since 2013. What he revealed brought about significant positive reforms in the US, both in the public and private sectors
- 1attice 4y ago
  I don't know if one comment counts as 'turning', but, a-propos of nothing, any authoritarian moment involves the reevaluation of previous dissident heroes
  - jmpman 4y ago
    Snowden crossed the line in what he released. US spying on China. How did that help him reveal the domestic spying problem? It didn’t, and wasn’t required. Many other disclosures were similarly not required, and questionable of a “patriot”. Instead, a foreign agent, revealing international spying, and trying to save his skin by also revealing domestic spying, matches Snowden’s actions. Get to be a Russian agent, and a celebrity. Best of both worlds. F him. If it only revealed the domestic spying, I might praise him. And my attitude has not changed since Snowden’s first disclosure.
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Proven 4y ago

So what? It's not his fault the US didn't let him go elsewhere. And this isn't worse than his previous situation. He wouldn't have to do this if crimes he uncovered were properly prosecuted and punished.