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You don't have a 1st amendment right to post on twitter. If twitter bans me for spamming, do you think I can sue them?

by patmcc 4y ago

gavinhoward 4y ago
It's not that Twitter stopped people from posting. It's that Twitter did that at the behest of the government. That is a clear violation of the First Amendment.
- patmcc 4y ago
  The government can ask private companies not to publish things, it does that for "national security" all the time. The company can tell them to pound sound - that's been well established. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/16/when-the-government-asks-a-newspaper-not-to-publish/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/16/wh... for example. But there's nothing illegal (and most certainly not 30 year prison sentence illegal) about the government saying "hey could you review these tweets please"? Do we know what they contained? Were they threats? Spam? Copyright infringing? Disagreements about tax policy?
  - newZWhoDis 4y ago
    It’s clearly illegal, it’s conspiracy to defraud the United States. United States citizens have explicit rights, and corporate employees colluding with government officials to “voluntarily” nullify those rights are guilty of conspiracy to defraud the United States The government represents us, a collusion to defeat our rights is conspiracy against us and subject to civil and criminal action
  - gavinhoward 4y ago
    It's called "soft power," and the use of "review" in those messages is clearly meaning something more than that. Otherwise, the government would not have suggested anything at all.
  - newZWhoDis 4y ago
    > The government can ask It actually can not. The dude behind you with a pipe in his hand asks for your car keys in the parking lot. Is that ok? He just asked is all…
    - ethanbond 4y ago
      Yes they can. Well established and not even controversial in legal circles.
      - NewLogic 4y ago
        Wait until everyone hears about ITAR restrictions...
- shagie 4y ago
  > It's that Twitter did that at the behest of the government. Could you describe the government at the time this action was taken? What relationship did the people asking Twitter to do things with the government? Did the people making the requests have any authority to direct any department of the Federal Government to take any action?
  - newZWhoDis 4y ago
    Rogue elements of the FBI colluded with private corporations and elements of the Democratic Party to defraud US citizens of their fundamental rights for the benefit of their preferred political candidate. They committed conspiracy to defraud the United States, and will in due time be charged as such by the Department of Justice. State employees who participated are traitors. https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual...
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
newZWhoDis 4y ago
Twitter officers conspired with hostile, rogue actors inside the US government to defraud United States Citizens of their constitutional rights They abused technology designed to prevent the spread of child pornography to censor information harmful to their preferred political candidate at the behest of government officials.

You don't have a 1st amendment right to post on twitter. If twitter bans me for spamming, do you think I can sue them?

by patmcc 4y ago

You don't have a 1st amendment right to post on twitter. If twitter bans me for spamming, do you think I can sue them?

It's not that Twitter stopped people from posting. It's that Twitter did that at the behest of the government. That is a clear violation of the First Amendment.

patmcc 4y ago
The government can ask private companies not to publish things, it does that for "national security" all the time. The company can tell them to pound sound - that's been well established. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/16/when-the-government-asks-a-newspaper-not-to-publish/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/16/wh... for example. But there's nothing illegal (and most certainly not 30 year prison sentence illegal) about the government saying "hey could you review these tweets please"? Do we know what they contained? Were they threats? Spam? Copyright infringing? Disagreements about tax policy?
- newZWhoDis 4y ago
  It’s clearly illegal, it’s conspiracy to defraud the United States. United States citizens have explicit rights, and corporate employees colluding with government officials to “voluntarily” nullify those rights are guilty of conspiracy to defraud the United States The government represents us, a collusion to defeat our rights is conspiracy against us and subject to civil and criminal action
- gavinhoward 4y ago
  It's called "soft power," and the use of "review" in those messages is clearly meaning something more than that. Otherwise, the government would not have suggested anything at all.
- newZWhoDis 4y ago
  > The government can ask It actually can not. The dude behind you with a pipe in his hand asks for your car keys in the parking lot. Is that ok? He just asked is all…
  - ethanbond 4y ago
    Yes they can. Well established and not even controversial in legal circles.
    - NewLogic 4y ago
      Wait until everyone hears about ITAR restrictions...
shagie 4y ago
> It's that Twitter did that at the behest of the government. Could you describe the government at the time this action was taken? What relationship did the people asking Twitter to do things with the government? Did the people making the requests have any authority to direct any department of the Federal Government to take any action?
- newZWhoDis 4y ago
  Rogue elements of the FBI colluded with private corporations and elements of the Democratic Party to defraud US citizens of their fundamental rights for the benefit of their preferred political candidate. They committed conspiracy to defraud the United States, and will in due time be charged as such by the Department of Justice. State employees who participated are traitors. https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-923-18-usc-371-conspiracy-defraud-us https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual...
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]

newZWhoDis 4y ago

Twitter officers conspired with hostile, rogue actors inside the US government to defraud United States Citizens of their constitutional rights They abused technology designed to prevent the spread of child pornography to censor information harmful to their preferred political candidate at the behest of government officials.