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Twitter's now owned by Elon, who is making friends with right wing reactionaries in public. Fox News is the most watched news channel on the continent. All te

Twitter's now owned by Elon, who is making friends with right wing reactionaries in public. Fox News is the most watched news channel on the continent. All tech companies at the very least are pro-capitalist, it's often a choice of whether they're outwardly more pro-market or more technocratic, which has nothing to do with political lefts and rights.

taolegal 4y ago
> Fox News is the most watched news channel on the continent. They have high viewership in spite of the fact that liberals have complete dominance over so-called "official" news media & centers of cultural production, as well as universities. Conservatives don't control government or anything else in any meaningful sense. Just look at American govt over the course of the 20th & 21st century to see that progressives squarely won in terms of shaping the size, scope & spending of govt. > has nothing to do with political lefts and rights You're supposing a True Scotsman that "liberals" aren't true left or something, that's complete nonsense. You may as well be regretting that a horse isn't a unicorn. Tech companies are overwhelmingly biased towards liberals. Don't play dumb.
- ModernMech 4y ago
  > Conservatives don't control government or anything else in any meaningful sense. 6/3 conservative Supreme Court and the House. That’s half of the federal government.
  - Vecr 4y ago
    More like a just over a sixth, there's three branches, executive, legislature, and judicial. If you buy into the whole "media is the fourth branch" thing, I say that's actually a minority or a plurality.
    - kevingadd 4y ago
      If you think "complete functional control over the supreme court for likely decades" is insignificant enough to make conservatives count as a minority you need to pay more attention to the powers and impact of the supreme court. They can effectively overrule any legislation if they wish and have proven a desire to do so.
      - Vecr 4y ago
        They say they can do that (judicial review is kind of not in the constitution) but what California and New York are doing post New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen puts a bit of a question on that. Making much of New York City a "gun free zone" is not what "the right to keep and bear arms" sounds like to me.
    - ModernMech 4y ago
      I’m counting executive branch, judicial branch, and congress as two because they each individually have their own mandated powers. The conservative Supreme Court just unilaterally gutted fundamental human rights for everyone in the country. That’s serious power that not even the President has. It’s a joke to pretend conservatives have no political power in the face of that. The third highest government official is the Speaker of the House, who will be a Republican in January, so it’s pretty hard to say Republicans have no power when they control the Speaker. It’s crazy how much power that is. But to call the media a branch of government and to assign “control” of media to Democrats is really a stretch. Pretty hard to make that case with Fox News around.
  - taolegal 4y ago
    Progressives aren't able to beat conservatives into submission because there's foundational checks and balances against that. That conservatives have any power at all is a testament to progressives ability to catastrophically & embarrassingly mismanage themselves and fail to deliver. But really progressives are just complaining that things aren't changing fast enough, it's inarguable that govt as it exists today is nothing remotely like limited govt.
    - djur 4y ago
      There's no political constituency for "limited government". Most voters want the government to do things they like and not do things they dislike. They just disagree on what those things are.
    - ModernMech 4y ago
      Progressives aren’t trying to “beat conservatives into submission”, where do you get that? Political violence is currently a big problem on the right, according to the head of the FBI (who himself is a conservative). Conservatives were the ones who lost in 2020 and attempted to literally beat their opponents into submission on Jan 6 2021, ending a record of peaceful transitions of power.
      - taolegal 4y ago
        > Political violence is currently a big problem on the right Political violence was pioneered by far-left terrorists, famously when they bombed Congress. More recently, Rand Paul got violently attacked. And a Bernie supporter committed a mass shooting & shot a Republican congressman. Of course you can't ignore there was the pervasive political violence throughout 2020 during BLM rioting. Remember the guy who mowed down a Christmas parade? Really the worst was when Hilary Clinton was the first to go all-in on election denial in 2016. And then spawned an entire 4 years of conspiracy theories surrounding Russia. Liberals largely failed to call her out & hold her accountable. They just project all of their worst crimes on their opponents.
        ModernMech 4y ago
  - kevinh 4y ago
    It's truly incredible that this easily-verifiable statement of fact has been downvoted.
- whateveracct 4y ago
  Reality has a known liberal bias
- archagon 4y ago
  As Colbert once said, "reality has a well known liberal bias."
  - taolegal 4y ago
    And it’s precisely that sniveling, sanctimonious attitude that makes someone like Trump attractive. Liberals almost never fail to be utterly unlikeable & unrelatable.
    - deleted 4y ago
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  - lazyeye 4y ago
    Then why the need for so much censorship like we have seen with Twitter?

taolegal 4y ago

> Fox News is the most watched news channel on the continent. They have high viewership in spite of the fact that liberals have complete dominance over so-called "official" news media & centers of cultural production, as well as universities. Conservatives don't control government or anything else in any meaningful sense. Just look at American govt over the course of the 20th & 21st century to see that progressives squarely won in terms of shaping the size, scope & spending of govt. > has nothing to do with political lefts and rights You're supposing a True Scotsman that "liberals" aren't true left or something, that's complete nonsense. You may as well be regretting that a horse isn't a unicorn. Tech companies are overwhelmingly biased towards liberals. Don't play dumb.

ModernMech 4y ago
> Conservatives don't control government or anything else in any meaningful sense. 6/3 conservative Supreme Court and the House. That’s half of the federal government.
- Vecr 4y ago
  More like a just over a sixth, there's three branches, executive, legislature, and judicial. If you buy into the whole "media is the fourth branch" thing, I say that's actually a minority or a plurality.
  - kevingadd 4y ago
    If you think "complete functional control over the supreme court for likely decades" is insignificant enough to make conservatives count as a minority you need to pay more attention to the powers and impact of the supreme court. They can effectively overrule any legislation if they wish and have proven a desire to do so.
    - Vecr 4y ago
      They say they can do that (judicial review is kind of not in the constitution) but what California and New York are doing post New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen puts a bit of a question on that. Making much of New York City a "gun free zone" is not what "the right to keep and bear arms" sounds like to me.
  - ModernMech 4y ago
    I’m counting executive branch, judicial branch, and congress as two because they each individually have their own mandated powers. The conservative Supreme Court just unilaterally gutted fundamental human rights for everyone in the country. That’s serious power that not even the President has. It’s a joke to pretend conservatives have no political power in the face of that. The third highest government official is the Speaker of the House, who will be a Republican in January, so it’s pretty hard to say Republicans have no power when they control the Speaker. It’s crazy how much power that is. But to call the media a branch of government and to assign “control” of media to Democrats is really a stretch. Pretty hard to make that case with Fox News around.
- taolegal 4y ago
  Progressives aren't able to beat conservatives into submission because there's foundational checks and balances against that. That conservatives have any power at all is a testament to progressives ability to catastrophically & embarrassingly mismanage themselves and fail to deliver. But really progressives are just complaining that things aren't changing fast enough, it's inarguable that govt as it exists today is nothing remotely like limited govt.
  - djur 4y ago
    There's no political constituency for "limited government". Most voters want the government to do things they like and not do things they dislike. They just disagree on what those things are.
  - ModernMech 4y ago
    Progressives aren’t trying to “beat conservatives into submission”, where do you get that? Political violence is currently a big problem on the right, according to the head of the FBI (who himself is a conservative). Conservatives were the ones who lost in 2020 and attempted to literally beat their opponents into submission on Jan 6 2021, ending a record of peaceful transitions of power.
    - taolegal 4y ago
      > Political violence is currently a big problem on the right Political violence was pioneered by far-left terrorists, famously when they bombed Congress. More recently, Rand Paul got violently attacked. And a Bernie supporter committed a mass shooting & shot a Republican congressman. Of course you can't ignore there was the pervasive political violence throughout 2020 during BLM rioting. Remember the guy who mowed down a Christmas parade? Really the worst was when Hilary Clinton was the first to go all-in on election denial in 2016. And then spawned an entire 4 years of conspiracy theories surrounding Russia. Liberals largely failed to call her out & hold her accountable. They just project all of their worst crimes on their opponents.
      - ModernMech 4y ago
- kevinh 4y ago
  It's truly incredible that this easily-verifiable statement of fact has been downvoted.
whateveracct 4y ago
Reality has a known liberal bias
archagon 4y ago
As Colbert once said, "reality has a well known liberal bias."
- taolegal 4y ago
  And it’s precisely that sniveling, sanctimonious attitude that makes someone like Trump attractive. Liberals almost never fail to be utterly unlikeable & unrelatable.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- lazyeye 4y ago
  Then why the need for so much censorship like we have seen with Twitter?