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This one is pretty bad in my opinion: https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 The govern

by Dig1t 4y ago

This one is pretty bad in my opinion: https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598827602403160064 The government is not supposed to be censoring people's speech, however they are effectively doing just that using a layer of indirection.

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paulgb 4y ago
Joe Biden wasn’t “the government” yet, look at the date. I wish we knew what these tweets actually were. If it was suppressing a news story, that’s bad. If it’s asking for death threats to be removed, that’s not bad. (Matt himself acknowledges that both parties had tweets taken down, his evidence for bias is apparently that Twitter employees donated more to democrats https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598828932395978752?s=46&t=edhjSccEuxK5jecEXtW1dg https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598828932395978752?s=46&...) Surely Twitter still has the data in an archive somewhere, but it’s not clear from the thread that Matt knows what the content of these tweets was.
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  Many of the removed tweets flagged by Bidens team were literally nude pictures of Hunter Biden.
- bavell 4y ago
  Wow, 99.7% contributions went to democrats... If that isn't damning evidence of partisan bias I don't know what is! I honestly wasn't expecting it to be that one-sided.
  - CodeArtisan 4y ago
    for 2022 mid terms, opensecrets.org reports 95.38% for democrats, 0.19% republicans, 4.42% others. overview of 2022 mid terms for technology: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.php?ind=B&Bkdn=DemRep&cycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.php?ind=B&Bkd... Twitter specifically: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/twitter/recipients?toprecipscycle=2022&id=D000067113&candscycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/twitter/recipients?toprecip... FTX: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ftx-us/summary?id=D000073694&topnumcycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ftx-us/summary?id=D00007369...
    - djur 4y ago
      The two "others" were Bernie Sanders and Evan McMullin, and the one Republican was Adam Kinzinger, a high-profile Trump critic who didn't even run for reelection in '22. There was a single individual donation of $200 to the RNC. I don't know what anybody expects, though. Tech workers tend to be young, affluent, educated city-dwellers, and that demographic is strongly and increasingly inclined toward supporting Democrats. Twitter is headquartered in San Francisco, a liberal city in a heavily Democratic state. There's no conspiracy at work here. Republicans could choose to try to appeal to tech workers if they wanted.
  - ttyprintk 4y ago
    Those are from individuals, capped at a few thousand dollars. The GOP raised more than the Democrats in the PAC arena, so we’ll never know the true balance when accounting for big donations at the top.
agripa2 4y ago
The Biden campaign is not the government.
- chroma 4y ago
  So if in 2016 the Trump campaign had done the same thing, you'd be fine with the response, "The Trump campaign is not the government."?
  - paulgb 4y ago
    I would, yes. In fact, the Trump White House did just that, it’s right there in the thread. Without knowing what the tweets they had removed were, I don’t see evidence of wrongdoing. There are legitimate reasons to have tweets taken down: malicious impersonation, revenge porn (which apparently some of these were), death threats, etc.
- jdkee 4y ago
  But Biden was likely to be elected, members of his staff appointed to government positions and staff at Twitter likely understood that.
  - noirbot 4y ago
    Were they? It wasn't clear even for most of a week after the election that Biden was likely to be elected.
    - runsWphotons 4y ago
      it was clear for the whole campaign the odds were pretty even
- newsclues 4y ago
  Is that a defence or further proof of malfeasance? The Biden campaign, which became the government, perhaps in part due to the assistance provided, requested and received assistance. If the campaign wasn't the government and didn't have the power to compel assistance, why did Twitter help?

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paulgb 4y ago

Joe Biden wasn’t “the government” yet, look at the date. I wish we knew what these tweets actually were. If it was suppressing a news story, that’s bad. If it’s asking for death threats to be removed, that’s not bad. (Matt himself acknowledges that both parties had tweets taken down, his evidence for bias is apparently that Twitter employees donated more to democrats https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598828932395978752?s=46&t=edhjSccEuxK5jecEXtW1dg https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598828932395978752?s=46&...) Surely Twitter still has the data in an archive somewhere, but it’s not clear from the thread that Matt knows what the content of these tweets was.

mikeyouse 4y ago
Many of the removed tweets flagged by Bidens team were literally nude pictures of Hunter Biden.
bavell 4y ago
Wow, 99.7% contributions went to democrats... If that isn't damning evidence of partisan bias I don't know what is! I honestly wasn't expecting it to be that one-sided.
- CodeArtisan 4y ago
  for 2022 mid terms, opensecrets.org reports 95.38% for democrats, 0.19% republicans, 4.42% others. overview of 2022 mid terms for technology: https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.php?ind=B&Bkdn=DemRep&cycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.php?ind=B&Bkd... Twitter specifically: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/twitter/recipients?toprecipscycle=2022&id=D000067113&candscycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/twitter/recipients?toprecip... FTX: https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ftx-us/summary?id=D000073694&topnumcycle=2022 https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ftx-us/summary?id=D00007369...
  - djur 4y ago
    The two "others" were Bernie Sanders and Evan McMullin, and the one Republican was Adam Kinzinger, a high-profile Trump critic who didn't even run for reelection in '22. There was a single individual donation of $200 to the RNC. I don't know what anybody expects, though. Tech workers tend to be young, affluent, educated city-dwellers, and that demographic is strongly and increasingly inclined toward supporting Democrats. Twitter is headquartered in San Francisco, a liberal city in a heavily Democratic state. There's no conspiracy at work here. Republicans could choose to try to appeal to tech workers if they wanted.
- ttyprintk 4y ago
  Those are from individuals, capped at a few thousand dollars. The GOP raised more than the Democrats in the PAC arena, so we’ll never know the true balance when accounting for big donations at the top.

agripa2 4y ago

The Biden campaign is not the government.

chroma 4y ago
So if in 2016 the Trump campaign had done the same thing, you'd be fine with the response, "The Trump campaign is not the government."?
- paulgb 4y ago
  I would, yes. In fact, the Trump White House did just that, it’s right there in the thread. Without knowing what the tweets they had removed were, I don’t see evidence of wrongdoing. There are legitimate reasons to have tweets taken down: malicious impersonation, revenge porn (which apparently some of these were), death threats, etc.
jdkee 4y ago
But Biden was likely to be elected, members of his staff appointed to government positions and staff at Twitter likely understood that.
- noirbot 4y ago
  Were they? It wasn't clear even for most of a week after the election that Biden was likely to be elected.
  - runsWphotons 4y ago
    it was clear for the whole campaign the odds were pretty even
newsclues 4y ago
Is that a defence or further proof of malfeasance? The Biden campaign, which became the government, perhaps in part due to the assistance provided, requested and received assistance. If the campaign wasn't the government and didn't have the power to compel assistance, why did Twitter help?