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There’s a meta story hiding here about owning the domain puter.com, and I’d love to know the history of this domains ownership.
by fideloper 4y ago
There’s a meta story hiding here about owning the domain puter.com, and I’d love to know the history of this domains ownership.
- ent101 4y agoPuter.com belonged to my good friend (and now also an investor in Puter) Humberto (who is the founder and CEO of Rows.com). He told me about the domain and I immediately thought it would be the perfect fit for this project. He was very gracious and agreed to sell it to me (well, to Puter Technologies Inc. lol). The price was $25,000. Another comment on here explains it very well: "It’s “pyu-ter”, like comPUTER! Puter dot com! Well done" This is why I loved it so much! He has more domains available here: https://portotype.com/documents/domains/ https://portotype.com/documents/domains/
- eyegor 4y ago
- mensetmanusman 4y agoIn economics middlemen help stabilize the supply demand curve. Otherwise all websites would be an abandoned MySpace page.
- lcuff 4y agoIn some cases. I don't believe this is true in the realm of concert tickets.
- Kranar 4y agoIt absolutely applies to ticket scalping, as much as we may hate to admit it. You can do a Google search for economics of ticket scalping and the overwhelming consensus is that it benefits both buyers and sellers.
- throwaway019254 4y agoCan you explain? Or is this just a hidden sarcasm?
- lcuff 4y agoAt your suggestion, I did the Google search. I did not find an 'overwhelming consensus'. There are some sellers who are motivated to allow it for complex reasons (public perception, value of sell-out crowds which allow TV broadcast of sporting events and ancillary sales. e.g). The fancy term 'allocative efficiency' which is econ-speak for 'we should always sell to the highest bidder' is described as a positive outcome of scalping. Personally I find that nauseating, and of no real value to (original) providers (sellers) such as entertainers. There are first-person interviews of entertainers distressed by the way scalping impacts their fans.
- UncleEntity 4y agoI’ve shown up to venues before and paid less for a ticket from the scalpers than if I would have walked over to the box office because they were just trying to unload them. I’ve also sold an extra ticket for a friend by just walking up to a random person standing in the ticket line and offering it to them for face value (which saved them money on the ticket counter markup). Both cases involved turning what would have been a complete loss into less than a complete loss. Never felt bad about the scalpers loosing money because they knew the risks and my friend was just going to eat the loss because whoever the ticket was for couldn’t make the show for whatever reason and I was like “I’ll get rid of it for you”.
- lcuff 4y agoYes, these are good examples of ... well, 'useful' scalping. The scenario I had in mind was when big scalping outfits have a modus operandi of buying huge quantities of tickets for re-sale. Aided and abetted by the technology of the web. I don't think it happened too often before that.
- scubbo 4y agoAh yes, buyers benefit from paying a higher price they otherwise would have done. This is very smart and sensible and obvious. (If you're claiming that buyers benefit from being able to buy a ticket that was purchased but then was not wanted, then that's true - but that's not scalping. Scalping is specifically buying a ticket with the intention to resell it for a higher price, _not_ reselling a ticket that was genuinely wanted at the time but was then unusable due to other conditions)
- glitchc 4y agoWhat's wrong with domain squatting? Should one have to give up land they own if they don't have a clear use for it?
- rjbwork 4y agoThere are human lifetimes worth of political philosophy that argues just that, yes. Many times that written about how land ought to be heavily taxed in accordance to its value. For some examples, see the Lockean Proviso, Mutualism, and Georgism.
- UncleEntity 4y agoWhat if someone values the land to drain and grow crops more than the current owner who just likes ducks so keeps it in its natural state? I guess they should have to pay taxes on the potential agricultural value because wild ducks don’t have any intrinsic market value? I kind of suspect the basic argument is based on some fallacious theory of value…pretty much guarantee it methinks.
- patife 4y agowhich isn't the case. just landed here, i'm the previous owner of puter.com and all the domains in that portotype.com page. all of them i bought for my projects. puter.com was purchased so that i'd build this https://berto.com/docs/2022-03-01-full-stack-markdown.html https://berto.com/docs/2022-03-01-full-stack-markdown.html but this guy had a much better idea. happy to explain what all of them are for. (mostly local content projects like decodeportugal.com)
- nocoiner 4y agoIt seems like for the first domain on your list (angeiras.com), you’re quite explicitly marketing it to the proprietor of the popular seafood place you mention. But if you say you’re not squatting, I’m sure there’s something I’m missing.
- patife 4y agomaybe i'm wrong, but i'm the previous owner of the domain and i don't think it's squatting. i bought it specifically for a project called full stack mark down https://berto.com/docs/2022-03-01-full-stack-markdown.html https://berto.com/docs/2022-03-01-full-stack-markdown.html but then got super busy with my spreadsheet company at rows.com. all the domains i buy are for real projects, which i release like decodeportugal.com, portotype.com, berto.com and more but some take years to see the light of day. i am open to selling if the idea is superior to mine, which is the case of the creator of puter.com. fyi i'd paid a 5 digits good deal of money for puter.com too. when you fall in love for these projects..you risk it.
- gitgud 4y ago> The price was $25,000. Woah is this a serious project then? Seems like a huge investment for a fun side project
- geenew 4y ago'To build a folly upon a fair bit of land is not to waste the land, but to occupy it for some short time in enjoyment' - Unknown
- noduerme 4y agoNever heard that before. It's a nice folksy bit of wisdom... except very few people in old Ireland or England could afford a fair bit of land, and even fewer could afford to build a folly upon it.
- ent101 4y agoIt started out as a side project but now I have investors and looking to hire! Let's see how far I can take it :)
- Thorentis 4y agoWhat is the value proposition here? Why would somebody use this over... the computer their using to access your fake in-browser computer?
- canadianfella 4y ago
- 9dev 4y agoI don’t know anything about you two, and I don’t want to sound condescending, but… what kind of friend sells a freaking domain for 25,000 dollars to another friend? Or was that just some asset shifting between your companies, without any real money involved..?
- ent101 4y agoThe premise of the question assumes that $25,000 is an insane amount for this domain. I completely disagree and I'm very happy with the price I paid.
- simonh 4y agoThat’s already explained in the comment. The domain was sold to a company that now owns it, that the two friends jointly own.