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literally can't make who you are talking about

dmix 4y ago
They don't have a fake Russian Kompromat file to justify the foreign boogieman narrative this time around but they'll believe it if it suits their ideology ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- threeseed 4y ago
  Yevgeny Prigozhin admitted that he interfered in US elections. And there was plenty of evidence other than the file that indicates that it happened.
  - dmix 4y ago
    Yes I remember the study showing the total amount of ad spending by Prigozhin was <$1 million. In a campaign where both sides spent $1 billion, not to mention the priceless wall-to-wall coverage the global media provided worth far more than an additional $1B. But yes, I'm sure Russia did enough to sway the election... All of the social media campaigns attributed to Russian agencies weren't even backing one party. They hit both sides. All they cared about was generating social conflict.
    - threeseed 4y ago
      I am glad we can both agree that Russia did in fact interfere in the election.
      - dmix 4y ago
        You're openly spreading Russia propaganda by the guy who founded Wagner (Russia is very important, they even swayed the US election!). I wouldn't pat myself on the back for such a thing. If spending a few hundred $k on foreigners using Twitter/FB advertising accounts is enough to meaningfully sway an election I think we have bigger problems than Russia.
        __d 4y ago
        I believe your last statement is accurate.
      - zaroth 4y ago
        Then by your standard everybody interfered too. This is a nonsensical stance. Degree matters, particularly when the degree was beyond miniscule relative to the handwringing and accusations and response. It’s been obvious for years that the narrative around “Russian interference” was an absolute ploy and a con. It’s a little silly to be still pushing it in 2022 don’t you think?
        dmix 4y ago
        > It’s a little silly to be still pushing it in 2022 don’t you think? When you live in a bubble like subreddits and Twitter communities then this sort of reality distortion is encouraged and rewarded. They never seem to have a response when someone outside their circles calls them out though. They just go quiet or redirect.

dmix 4y ago

They don't have a fake Russian Kompromat file to justify the foreign boogieman narrative this time around but they'll believe it if it suits their ideology ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

threeseed 4y ago
Yevgeny Prigozhin admitted that he interfered in US elections. And there was plenty of evidence other than the file that indicates that it happened.
- dmix 4y ago
  Yes I remember the study showing the total amount of ad spending by Prigozhin was <$1 million. In a campaign where both sides spent $1 billion, not to mention the priceless wall-to-wall coverage the global media provided worth far more than an additional $1B. But yes, I'm sure Russia did enough to sway the election... All of the social media campaigns attributed to Russian agencies weren't even backing one party. They hit both sides. All they cared about was generating social conflict.
  - threeseed 4y ago
    I am glad we can both agree that Russia did in fact interfere in the election.
    - dmix 4y ago
      You're openly spreading Russia propaganda by the guy who founded Wagner (Russia is very important, they even swayed the US election!). I wouldn't pat myself on the back for such a thing. If spending a few hundred $k on foreigners using Twitter/FB advertising accounts is enough to meaningfully sway an election I think we have bigger problems than Russia.
      - __d 4y ago
        I believe your last statement is accurate.
    - zaroth 4y ago
      Then by your standard everybody interfered too. This is a nonsensical stance. Degree matters, particularly when the degree was beyond miniscule relative to the handwringing and accusations and response. It’s been obvious for years that the narrative around “Russian interference” was an absolute ploy and a con. It’s a little silly to be still pushing it in 2022 don’t you think?
      - dmix 4y ago
        > It’s a little silly to be still pushing it in 2022 don’t you think? When you live in a bubble like subreddits and Twitter communities then this sort of reality distortion is encouraged and rewarded. They never seem to have a response when someone outside their circles calls them out though. They just go quiet or redirect.