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Cloud pricing is insane, we are handling around 3 billion dynamic requests a month and serving 100+ TBs of static content a month for a few hundred euros, all r

Cloud pricing is insane, we are handling around 3 billion dynamic requests a month and serving 100+ TBs of static content a month for a few hundred euros, all rented/dedicated servers, with zero problems. So we would pay like 10-100x times more in the cloud for the same hardware and traffic.

ilyt 4y ago
We had bosses come few times to price the cloud migration and every single time it ends up being few times as expensive. "What about extra work to keep the physical hardware running" - for 7 racks we have maybe a dying drive every month or two. Installing a rack of servers takes about a day with all preparations. "What about setting up software" - we have automation and paid it off long time ago. Genuine concern for company that starts up but not really for one that needs at least few racks worth of servers.
- simfree 4y ago
  Cloud pricing is often not competitive with an optimized on-prem platform that has noteworthy resource usage. It is wild to think some people see it as a cure all, when it has real risks of destroying a budget.
  - tomjen3 4y ago
    The resource usage is not too bad, but the fees all the cloud charges for bandwidth are insane. Charging bandwidth in gigabytes should get you laughed out of the room. I have an unmetered connection at home; if you cannot provide one in your own data center, why are you even in business? That said, the cloud is great if you need to train AI models, convert old data, do end-of-year processing, or do something else that requires a massive amount of resources for a short time. Unless you are Howard Huges, why would you live in a hotel? And if you wouldn't live in a hotel yourself, why would you pay to have your data live there?
    - ilyt 4y ago
      The price per GB aside from obvious (earns more money) have other reason; it's just so much easier to meter when you have hundreds different services. You just increase the counter. You don't have to worry when service sent data. How much BW the service actually costs is hard to calculate because you are essentially buying peak capacity, so only thing that matters is that hour in a day where there is peak traffic and which services use that up. Sure there is a bit on power used flipping actual bits in the network devices but that's tiny fraction of that.

ilyt 4y ago

We had bosses come few times to price the cloud migration and every single time it ends up being few times as expensive. "What about extra work to keep the physical hardware running" - for 7 racks we have maybe a dying drive every month or two. Installing a rack of servers takes about a day with all preparations. "What about setting up software" - we have automation and paid it off long time ago. Genuine concern for company that starts up but not really for one that needs at least few racks worth of servers.

simfree 4y ago
Cloud pricing is often not competitive with an optimized on-prem platform that has noteworthy resource usage. It is wild to think some people see it as a cure all, when it has real risks of destroying a budget.
- tomjen3 4y ago
  The resource usage is not too bad, but the fees all the cloud charges for bandwidth are insane. Charging bandwidth in gigabytes should get you laughed out of the room. I have an unmetered connection at home; if you cannot provide one in your own data center, why are you even in business? That said, the cloud is great if you need to train AI models, convert old data, do end-of-year processing, or do something else that requires a massive amount of resources for a short time. Unless you are Howard Huges, why would you live in a hotel? And if you wouldn't live in a hotel yourself, why would you pay to have your data live there?
  - ilyt 4y ago
    The price per GB aside from obvious (earns more money) have other reason; it's just so much easier to meter when you have hundreds different services. You just increase the counter. You don't have to worry when service sent data. How much BW the service actually costs is hard to calculate because you are essentially buying peak capacity, so only thing that matters is that hour in a day where there is peak traffic and which services use that up. Sure there is a bit on power used flipping actual bits in the network devices but that's tiny fraction of that.