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- revskill 4y agoThat would kill TeamViewer or similar remote desktop apps.
- mkoryak 4y agoWhat the hell did I just do for 16 minutes 0_o
- carl_dr 4y agoI somehow managed to end up with a weird version of Draw, with a Grinch in the bottom corner. I can’t reproduce now. I bet there are other Easter eggs here.
- dark-star 4y agowait, this is an easter egg? I saw the same when I randomly opened draw, and all the drawing tools were hidden behind some advent-calendar style doors... I was like "hm, okay, looks like another windows93.net" and closed the page
- carl_dr 4y agoOn subsequent loads, the Draw app looked as you’d expect a draw app to look like.
- Minor49er 4y agoIt loads a Christmas theme when the Grinch is present, but clicking him takes it away
- smohnot 4y agoThis is cool... but what is the business? It's a good domain name & they have a careers@puter.com email address (if you click on the i in the bottom right)
- rchaud 4y agoThere's a dev environment app in there. I think that's what they're selling.
- noduerme 4y agowhich has almost no API calls except accessing files stored in their cloud drive. Other than that, your apps are just plain JavaScript running in a window inside their window. So it appears more like a very goofy way of selling overpriced cloud storage and trying to entice developers to build an ecosystem around that.
- pr337h4m 4y ago(Self-dupe: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33840961 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33840961) If Puter/FriendOS can support legacy Windows enterprise apps not updated in over a decade and adds collaboration, SSO, 2FA, access controls, VPN/intranet, etc. - basically what FrontEgg (https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/28/with-40m-in-new-funding-fr https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/28/with-40m-in-new-funding-fr...) offers - on top on them, it could be a pretty great business. This is a great illustration of this type of business: https://apenwarr.ca/log/20120326 https://apenwarr.ca/log/20120326. A lot of customers totally need, not just want, this type of thing. Puter/FriendOS type systems can graft upon some modern features on top of all legacy apps, which is far far better than having to build it out for every single one. Especially as the market lies more in the long tail of the custom software tailed to specific companies, that has been chugging along for 15 years in maintenance mode.
- austin-cheney 4y agoI wrote my own OS in a browser based upon network shared file systems via a privacy model but I haven’t figured out kind of a business model for it. https://github.com/prettydiff/share-file-systems https://github.com/prettydiff/share-file-systems I am trying to think of where to take it next. Possibly integrate something like VLC for media playback or allowing users to install applications. I don’t really know what users would want from something like this.
- frou_dh 4y agoHave seen quite literally dozens of versions of this idea over the years. I'm sure this is well made and a fun project to develop, but I just don't get the fascination with this idea of desktop OS mimicry in a browser tab.
- mgsk 4y ago> I just don't get the fascination with this idea answered by > this is well made and a fun project to develop
- Sujeto 4y agoYeah and that "desktop paradigm" gets old I need my custom awesomewm desktop now Also putero means whore house in spanish.
- cfuendev 4y agoThat's the biggest issue I have with these. They're cool and all, but they're starting to get old. I like how they're including a little "SDK for bulding apps in this fake OS", which is a bit new, but I'd be way more invested in something like a HyperTerm-inspired Portfolio Project or UI Library.
- CrypticShift 4y agoWhat I don't understand is why they all go full classic OS demo, with always the same suite of basic apps (note, paint, photo...) Why not build (complex but specific) SaaS applications that just leverage OS designs paradigms on the frontend (taskbar, windows, notifications, desktop, icons..) inside the same tab? What if the OS-like apps were open plugins that will augment that SaaS? [edit] here is an example: Imagine an alternative OS-like interface to HN that is plugin-based. You can add themes, or apps like messaging between HN users (in different windows), keyword-based and comment replies notification (a la Action Center)... it is like HNES [1] on steroids. [1] https://github.com/etcet/HNES https://github.com/etcet/HNES
- nxpnsv 4y ago
- blondin 4y agocan we stop doing posts like these on hn? thank you. by the time we have all figured out it's nothing malicious or not, the harm has already been done. or not. in this case, no harm.
- Waterluvian 4y agoJoy Considered Harmful
- des429 4y agoChill out
- radicaldreamer 4y agolol
- owenpalmer 4y agochill bro
- Datagenerator 4y agoNice! Permission wise, why can for example Markus open the Android file browser and read it?
- sandgiant 4y agoThis is great! Had a real good time completing Panda Love with my daughter. Thanks for sharing!
- rideontime 4y ago
- version_five 4y agoplaying in the terminal, I don't think it has a compiler or python or curl. Stupid question maybe, is there a way to install anything?
- danielodievich 4y agoI like https://www.windows93.net/ https://www.windows93.net/ better. More retro!
- themodelplumber 4y agoLove it. I thought the startup sound was the beginning of the B-21 reveal webcast and instinctively switched tabs. Pretty intense sound. :-)
- danielodievich 4y agoThe Half Life 3 and Brain Sweeper are just chef's kiss perfect. Actually all of it is perfect. And amazing that it works!
- RupertEisenhart 4y agoThe the Pokémon game, it's insane. I played it for hours once.
- roryokane 4y agoThe startup sound is actually the PlayStation 1 startup sound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAhvQoLpvsM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAhvQoLpvsM
- tspike 4y agoThat version of Minesweeper (Brian Sweeper) is just mean-spirited.
- drivers99 4y agoThere is an option for Troll Mode that you can uncheck
- david_shi 4y agoBest website ever.
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- beeskneecaps 4y agoSuch a cool project. Fyi The camera didn't work on iOS.
- carl_dr 4y agoIt’s working for me fwiw. iPhone 13, latest iOS.
- loandbehold 4y agoReminds me of YouOS.
- Razengan 4y agoWhat the hell is it? We can't even know without giving it an email? Closed and hidden. Splatting a login/signup form in your face right away with no indication whatsoever of what the website is about, is a dark and scummy pattern.
- carl_dr 4y agoSure you can, you don’t have to give them Jack if you don’t want to - you can have a fully fledged play without signing up.
- ergonaught 4y agohttps://puter.com/terms https://puter.com/terms "Puter is a cloud operating system that allows you to upload, store, process, and share data, files, personal information, messages, pictures, and other materials (collectively, your “User Data”). You can also search, preview, sort and personalize your User Data." I didn't give them anything; I also don't recall their asking for anything.
- bscphil 4y ago> I didn't give them anything; I also don't recall their asking for anything. When I click the link, I see only a login modal over some abstract background art. I don't even see the link to the terms of service you have there. (That's after I enabled Javascript on the page to even get that far.) I can only assume that's what OP is complaining about. Maybe they've got too many users because of this post and they're limiting it to signup-only for now? Or maybe my browser isn't passing some IP trustworthiness thing. shrug
- svnpenn 4y agofails with older browsers: Uncaught SyntaxError: private fields are not currently supported
- guessmyname 4y agoMore Puter subdomains at -- https://www.google.com/search?q=site:puter.com https://www.google.com/search?q=site:puter.com (click the last pages)
- lizardactivist 4y agoThese types of systems are interesting, but I wonder if there's any use case where you would prefer them over the one you're browsing from. FriendOS is arguably also the most advanced and complete of these systems: https://friendos.com/ https://friendos.com/
- pr337h4m 4y agoIf Puter/FriendOS can support legacy Windows enterprise apps not updated in over a decade and adds collaboration, SSO, 2FA, access controls, VPN/intranet, etc. - basically what FrontEgg (https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/28/with-40m-in-new-funding-frontegg-looks-to-expand-its-b2b-user-management-service/ https://techcrunch.com/2022/07/28/with-40m-in-new-funding-fr...) offers - on top on them, it could be a pretty great business. This is a great illustration of this type of business: https://apenwarr.ca/log/20120326 https://apenwarr.ca/log/20120326. A lot of customers totally need, not just want, this type of thing. Puter/FriendOS type systems can graft upon some modern features on top of all legacy apps, which is far far better than having to build it out for every single one. Especially as the market lies more in the long tail of the custom software tailed to specific companies, that has been chugging along for 15 years in maintenance mode.
- notpushkin 4y agoSo, Wine-as-a-Service? [1]: https://www.winehq.org/ https://www.winehq.org/
- tsml 4y agoThe trash can is a nice place for ads.
- fideloper 4y agoThere’s a meta story hiding here about owning the domain puter.com, and I’d love to know the history of this domains ownership.
- ent101 4y agoPuter.com belonged to my good friend (and now also an investor in Puter) Humberto (who is the founder and CEO of Rows.com). He told me about the domain and I immediately thought it would be the perfect fit for this project. He was very gracious and agreed to sell it to me (well, to Puter Technologies Inc. lol). The price was $25,000. Another comment on here explains it very well: "It’s “pyu-ter”, like comPUTER! Puter dot com! Well done" This is why I loved it so much! He has more domains available here: https://portotype.com/documents/domains/ https://portotype.com/documents/domains/
- eyegor 4y ago
- mensetmanusman 4y agoIn economics middlemen help stabilize the supply demand curve. Otherwise all websites would be an abandoned MySpace page.
- lcuff 4y agoIn some cases. I don't believe this is true in the realm of concert tickets.
- Kranar 4y agoIt absolutely applies to ticket scalping, as much as we may hate to admit it. You can do a Google search for economics of ticket scalping and the overwhelming consensus is that it benefits both buyers and sellers.
- pulketo 4y agoI was there Gandalf 17 years ago...wuth eyeOS
- rmorey 4y agoIt’s “pyu-ter”, like comPUTER! Puter dot com! Well done
- k2enemy 4y agoWhat, your mom buy you a puter for Christmas?
- kderbyma 4y agowas going to say this :)
- kstrauser 4y agoMy people.
- pedrogpimenta 4y agoAll your usernames start with k.
- kstrauser 4y agoWhoa!
- DustinBrett 4y agoDoes he know anything?
- DanHulton 4y agoNo tab-completion in the terminal?!?! _Literally_ unusable. (But for serious, this is a _very_ clean interface, I like it a lot.)
- speed_spread 4y agoHint: there's an "AppData" folder - Did you expect a decent CLI from what is obviously a Windows box?
- sbarre 4y agoJokes aside, the new Windows Terminal is actually pretty good.
- meinheld111 4y agoAfaik it’s electron, so kind of limited to „not bad“
- notpushkin 4y agoIt's not. https://github.com/microsoft/terminal https://github.com/microsoft/terminal
- bigDinosaur 4y agoIt's excellent for typing in 'wsl'. More seriously though the new Windows Terminal isn't what provides autocomplete, that's the shell. Powershell probably has okay autocomplete. In Windows the distinction has always blurred a bit.
- speed_spread 4y agoI've recently given up on unix-type shells on Windows. Whether it's WSL1, WSL2, WSLg, MSYS2 or Cygwin, there's always compatibility quirks or performance issues that just reminds me that "it's not Linux". So I decided to just bite the bullet and go all in on PowerShell. It's still not a great default CLI experience but it can be made acceptable with plugins. But the real strength is in scripting, it's a good mix of high-level language and shell terseness.
- LoganDark 4y agoI am the author of the "app" called Puter which loads up Puter inside Puter, which then loads up the Puter app again, which ... https://puter.com/app/puter https://puter.com/app/puter
- ent101 4y agoThank you for changing it. It was causing a DDoS on Puter :(
- LoganDark 4y agoIt was? Oops :( (Those were both the same app and have been for months. I just claimed Puter after PuterPuter way back when.)
- ent101 4y agoCould it be... that I did the whole geo-replication because of this app? :')
- LoganDark 4y agoMuahahahaha~ I think you could solve it by giving apps an option to not open automatically when you start Puter. That way you could start the Puter app, and it'd open a nested instance of Puter, but that instance wouldn't start infinite recursion by automatically opening the Puter app inside.
- ent101 4y agoThat's a great idea, thank you! I'll implement it :)
- sally_glance 4y agoWait so the parent noticed the DDoS but you are the owner of both domains?
- tony-allan 4y agoThe docs mention an API for use within apps in the browser. I am wondering if an external API is available or planned to allow two way interaction with external servers. - external file storage - events/notifications - REST to access puter resources
- ent101 4y agoYes. I'm planning to release all these soon :)
- tony-allan 4y agoyeah!
- momothereal 4y agoin the terminal, doing the following freezes the page: touch abc cat abc
- stvnbn 4y agoHow do I turn it off?
- pattle 4y agoI built something similar based of Windows XP https://simulator.money https://simulator.money
- sbarre 4y agoIf the time period is accurate, how can I put all the money in Apple stock?
- shon 4y agoKudos. It’s cool. I mean.. Render the paint program’s history as an animated gif??? Niiiiice… also props for standing up to the load of HN.
- tgtweak 4y agoPremature congratulations
- thih9 4y agoFor the record, is now 9h after submission and it’s loading well.
- francisduvivier 4y agoFor the record, not loading here currently.
- DustinBrett 4y agoCongrats on making it on HN with puter.com. Always love to see desktop environments getting attention. It looks better all the time. I'll take a chance to mention my attempt at creating a desktop environment in the browser as it's open source, if anyone is interested in checking out. Code: https://github.com/DustinBrett/daedalOS https://github.com/DustinBrett/daedalOS Demo: https://dustinbrett.com/ https://dustinbrett.com/
- itrollpussies 4y agoNice job , looks really cool.
- DustinBrett 4y agoThanks! Always happy to hear people liked it.
- redbell 4y agoThis is truly a cool project, Dustin! Yesterday on Reddit, someone mentioned your project as one of the coolest projects he had seen, and I was more than happy to reply to him with more details [1] as I really enjoyed watching your journey. Cool projects deserve more sharing and support for their creators. 1. https://www.reddit.com/r/Frontend/comments/z9wgw5/comment/iylo2mp/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Frontend/comments/z9wgw5/comment/iy...
- DustinBrett 4y agoThanks very much! I'm happy to hear it's considered cool by some. I want to keep working on it until it really is the best.
- GaryPalmer 4y agoBesides fun, is there any real use to coding these ?
- DustinBrett 4y ago
- dddrh 4y agoIn the terminal I made a new folder with an html file in it. Opened the file into an editor :)
- anyfactor 4y agoThis is what I imagined Chromebooks should have been. A browser hooked upto a shared VPS somewhere.
- patife 4y agoi don't think it's a shared VPS it looks like a computer in the cloud, but it seems it's just serving the files and app files which execute locally (as opposed to remotely) the UX clearly makes the brain think it's an actual computer.
- anyfactor 4y agoWith Stadia I think Google had something like this in their mind. Progressively centralizing computation and storage in data centers while the offering devices like chromebook. Like terminals to a mainframe computer but on WAN level.
- soheil 4y ago> To protect your security, www.google.com will not allow Firefox to display the page if another site has embedded it. To see this page, you need to open it in a new window.
- brundolf 4y agoIs there a tl;dr anywhere of what this is? Is it just another for-fun tech demo of putting an OS-like GUI in a web browser?
- tgv 4y agoIndeed, the info window doesn't provide any info, so my best guess is that you can create documents (and apps?), save and probably publish them. It's a sort of remote desktop in a browser, but actually all that's remote is the storage. It does seem quite limited, so I'm not sure what it offers more than novelty (and even that's limited). Perhaps the app builder is good. I didn't check it. So I went back to try it: app names are apparently global. I couldn't create an app called "test" because "Name is already used by another app. Please pick another name." Oh, an app is just a URL. Clicking on it just opens the URL in a new window/iframe. It looks as if you can attach a document to the app, so perhaps it sends that along when you drop a document on the icon. Would be neat, but it does rely on other people making and publishing your killer app, and provide the infrastructure for it. I smell micropayments.
- noduerme 4y agoThe "terminal" can't understand wildcards. Sorry, what is the point of having a terminal that has almost no commands?
- makach 4y agoVery nice work. Reminds me of FriendOS! Also I suspect the author of puter to build this operating system just to be able to make their own version of Paint that can be themed. chefs kiss to you
- foritdoit 4y agoNice work! Just try to made an app: https://puter.com/app/FangCloud https://puter.com/app/FangCloud
- suyash 4y agoHow do you create GUI floating windows and terminal simulator inside web browser ?
- jstummbillig 4y agoDivs + JS. I am not sure what exactly you are asking.
- etewiah 4y agoAnd there I was thinking it was going to be a parody site of Putin gone all Hitler..... Perhaps that Putler.
- jl6 4y agoDoes anybody remember the circa-1999 desktop.com? Same idea, but implemented in what was then called DHTML. It was very limited but I felt offered a sneak peak of the virtualized and web-based future that we now live in.
- survirtual 4y agoSo it’s a “desktop” environment without any of the privacy or security of a desktop environment, written in javascript & css (ie cheap and slow), where all the data is stored on a cloud owned by a couple of dudes (they can snoop, sell, and cut off access to your data at any time), all without encryption? Am I missing something or this a TERRIBLE idea? How does it keep showing up over and over again? Just about any developer could build something like this in under a month, it isn’t some novel idea. I don’t mean to rain on a parade here I am always happy to see hobby projects, but the fact someone is investing in this and real money is being allocated seems ridiculous. The implications of anyone seriously thinking this is a reasonable cloud desktop environment are scary; people will get duped into being data harvested with no ownership of their data.
- louwrentius 4y agoThis was also my thinking looking at the site. No way I was going to allow access to my microphone or camera. the truth is that in order to use this site, you need a working computer with a desktop anyway. So the only value would be is that you can access your stuff from anywhere on any computer. It’s just security nightmares all the way down.
- survirtual 4y agoYeah, glad someone else sees it. There is a value proposition in having a synchronized desktop across every environment (phone, tablet, desktop, etc.) but this project doesn’t remotely capture what that would entail —- a wasm-based OS with a webgpu frontend, all locally computed. All synchronization / any data leaving would be encrypted locally with a key shared among local systems via a QR code, and the option to self-host the entire stack would be readily available. The encryption + self-hosting is bare minimum as a business, not the least of which is because it adds credibility to the entire system. Open source is also a requirement to verify nothing nefarious is going on. With that in place, it might be reasonable to have a cloud offering that is paid so most users wouldn’t need to self host. Systems should also be able to replicate data locally so if cloud access is ever shut down, they can continue functioning without much issue. I could build all that (and have built that + more, so it comes from experience) in a ~month — how is it that this project is getting funded, after lacking any of that after years? My guess? It is cheap & looks usable, and for some reason gained massive popularity, so it will dupe people into freely sharing their data which can be mined and monetized. Apologies if this isn’t the intention of the original creators, but that is what investors will use this for. If I am wrong, I recommend they implement what I suggested.
- beeforpork 4y agoI like Vallader more.
- bigbacaloa 4y agoIf one speaks Spanish the app is not well named.
- 867-5309 4y agodid anyone else just waste half an hour on Panda Love?
- 867-5309 4y agojust me then.
- Aldipower 4y agoWay better then the Citrix terminal I have to use at work.
- coolandsmartrr 4y agoFavorite part of this project has to be the game Panda Love. It's a platformer where you can only control by jumping. Can't wait to see more levels.
- technoooooost 4y agoWrong timing with the Panda/Nintendo drama ;)
- mikechalmers 4y agoI liked the panda game. Level 14 sure was tricky! But I didn't give up and was happy to complete it. 5 stars.
- tleb_ 4y agoMore context can be found here: https://docs.puter.com/ https://docs.puter.com/ I'm truly skeptical as well
- nchase 4y ago> Why should I develop apps for Puter? > > We could get you an incredible number of users: Puter's is growing with no sign of slowing down. By building and publishing apps on Puter, you will instantly get access to our ever-growing user base. This seems dishonest, or maybe I'm just missing the point of Puter. Who the heck is using this? https://docs.puter.com/#/?id=why-should-i-develop-apps-for-puter https://docs.puter.com/#/?id=why-should-i-develop-apps-for-p...
- aktuel 4y agoI like the copycat game. Couldn't find it anywhere else. Is it a puter exclusive?
- Charlie11 4y ago
- abeppu 4y agoUnfortunately it doesn't have a browser, so your puter can't even load up puter.
- bogwog 4y agoActually it seems every app is just a browser window, so you can create an app that points to puter.com, and you'll have puter inside of puter. It's pretty cool, but I can't think of what this would be useful for. Presumably, you need a sophisticated desktop OS that can run a modern web browser in order to use this. And that OS is likely more useful than this.
- carl_dr 4y ago> Actually it seems every app is just a browser window, so you can create an app that points to puter.com, and you'll have puter inside of puter. Yep, you can, I now have several nested Puters.
- divbzero 4y agoThere are limited cases such as ChromeOS or iPadOS where Puter could be more flexible than the host OS.
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- BulgarianIdiot 4y agoMy NAS has a similar "OS-like" web interface and it's very useful. Given there's no monitor attached to it.
- LoganDark 4y ago> you can create an app that points to puter.com, and you'll have puter inside of puter. I did this months ago! Here it is: https://puter.com/app/puter https://puter.com/app/puter
- darreninthenet 4y agoI've just been using it from my smartphone...
- replygirl 4y agonever go full browser
- xmonkee 4y agoCan you actually do anything useful here?
- someweirdperson 4y agoGuns and bottles is fun.
- carl_dr 4y agoYou can even unlock new guns.
- SV_BubbleTime 4y agoI’m not interested unless there are microtransactions and loot boxes… that exist for this session only.
- sva_ 4y agoNo, in fact it is probably a complete waste of time - which makes it such a neat thing.
- varispeed 4y agoYou can do anything at puter.com, anything at all
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- schipplock 4y agoZombo! :)
- iLoveOncall 4y agoNo, like on all those "WebOS".
- jhbadger 4y agoSeems to have an issue with Firefox. At least in the terminal app -- the characters are multicolored blocks rather than letters. The editor app seems to work, as do the various games like Panda Love.
- pmontra 4y agoThe terminal is ok in Firefox Android.
- david_van_loon 4y agoIsn't Firefox on Android using the Chromium engine?
- mirashii 4y agoNo, it's still Gecko
- drexlspivey 4y agoClick the small icon next to the address bar and allow terminal to use canvas data
- jhbadger 4y agoYeah, that was it.
- jimmaswell 4y agoMozilla has no time to fix Firefox Android or address their ever dwindling market share but we can count on them to waste time on overzealous security theater