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I very much think we are in the period of "this is such a fundamental change, its hard to envision its impact." Everyone is like "but can't a simple database d
by basch 4y ago
I very much think we are in the period of "this is such a fundamental change, its hard to envision its impact."
Everyone is like "but can't a simple database do that" and the answer is no.
The fundamental change a blockchain enables is a transition from double entry to triple entry accounting. The technology is the means to that end.
In current double entry accounting every firm keeps their own copy of internal books. AP and AR create corresponding entries between firms. This creates tons of redundancy and room for error.
Triple entry accounting distributed across a public database allows multiple firms to be looking at the same book. For a change like this to be meaningful, every ERP in the world needs a fundamental redesign, and to agree on interoperability. The world changing events are when corporate accounting transitions and logistics edi transitions. Most of the world is still sending data through pdfs, xls, and edi/text emails. They are still using OCR because everybody is rasterizing data to transfer it to each other. It will make a meaningful change if it can replace health records being locked behind epic and cerner/oracle. It may be useful when data portability becomes a human right. The idea of storing data neither in your own private vault at home, nor in a proprietary institutions vault is still foreign. The idea of a database surviving the collapse of the institution that created it is rare, outside of acquisitions. The best we get is individual takeouts.
Blockchains are a social change. Where competing firms work together to maintain a distributed ledger of truth. It establishes a consensus reality that everyone can agree is a base for all other decision making. It eliminates reconciling two firms versions of reality. Blockchain REQUIRES mass adoption across industry to be useful.
Blockchain enables multiple competing/adversarial but also cooperative parties to modify a single book in a constructive fashion. This previously required a third party, which has now been automated.
There will be naysayers saying "this cant work" because they still arent looking at the world fourth dimensionally, errr triple entry'y.
Krugman is wrong because he is looking at the technology, and not the change to human behaviors and best practices it enables. He sees it as a drop in replacement for a past analog. Whereas, it should be evident, there is no current analog for public, immutable, redundantly stored, appendable by anyone, distributed databases. They didnt exist. Bitcoin got a bunch of competing firms to backup and host identical copies of the same constantly changing database. That is revolution. He sees no value in it. That is crazy to me, and on par with his "the internet is nothing more than fax machines" lack of vision.
Change needs to be shaped around this, at a foundational level. That takes time. And agreement. I believe distributed, collaborative databases, that exist outside individual firms to be inevitable. The answer to "what is blockchain good for" is creating public, decentralized trust and resilient records resistant to rot. Something very human, and not at all mathematical or databasey.
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This is almost 20 years old already. https://iang.org/papers/triple_entry.html https://iang.org/papers/triple_entry.html
- basch 4y agoOne thing I didnt say was that technology producers like SAP and Oracle are disincentivized from transforming their products into glorified frontends to a shared public database. Such a change would drastically reduce the lock in they benefit from. Firms could be swapping accounting software like one can switch between Chrome and Firefox when surfing the web. I see the revolution coming from newer entrants or a smaller big producer like Acumatica who can throw it on as a feature for existing clients, and as a value add to new clients (we are just a front end, leave us at any time if you dont like us!) The world seems to not want to envision product categories where the user experience and database are two different providers.
- rhaway84773 4y agoAnd this is why people call blockchain a solution seeking a problem. There is absolutely no evidence that any company or individual is interested in this end. Firms want to keep their own books. The last thing they want is everyone being able to look into their books. It’s fascinating that crypto enthusiasts can simultaneously promote crypto as a means to get away from govt control of money and look upon a public ledger containing all the transactions by every entity, which would then obviously be available to the govt as well, as an ideal.
- basch 4y ago> The last thing they want is everyone being able to look into their books. If doesn’t mean each firms books are open to everyone or even each other. The data can still be hidden and obscured, and only readable by the firms with the keys. What it does mean is that two firms transacting with each other have a single ledger entry for a single transaction. You’ve fallen into my “There will be naysayers saying "this cant work" because they still arent looking at the world fourth dimensionally, errr triple entry'y.” You started with the premise of why it can’t work and worked backwards, instead of going through how someone could keep a private database encrypted within a public one. >There is absolutely no evidence that any company or individual is interested in this end. “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” > Firms want to keep their own books. Because they lack vision. “If it ain’t broke.” > It’s fascinating that crypto enthusiasts can simultaneously promote crypto as a means to get away from govt control I don’t think I mentioned the government once. Seems like you’re projecting an identity or stereotype onto me. The real win will be when triple entry shared accounting replaces AP/AR and accounting system backups. It’ll lead to drastic efficiency increases, speed improvements, and cost savings. Those are things that will interest firms. And they will achieve those things through the accounting systems they implement. https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/dk/Documents/financial-services/Blockchain_Rapport_feb_2020_web_enkelt-side.pdf https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/dk/Documents/...