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How would a skeptic confirm this? Can one get a VPN inside China?

protoc 4y ago
you can download the douyin app or goto https://www.douyin.com/ https://www.douyin.com/ The more stupid things you look for, the more stupid things you see. Its the same in the us as it is in china.
yibg 4y ago
Why does it matter what content is shown in China? Many countries have content requirements the US does not. Isn’t the important part what is shown in the US and if it’s manipulated or just responding to user demand like every other platform?
qwezxcrty 4y ago
There are VPNs tunneling back to China, search for 翻墙回国 (+ DeepL) and you can find a lot of providers. Those are quite popular for Chinese speaking people outside of China to get access to geoblocked contents (video, music, etc.). But usually the biggest problem is how to get a Chinese phone number. In China, most apps require you to register with a phone number (+SMS verification), which is your de facto personal identity number. Back to the topic, I can confirm this for you. Douyin is also serving shit to Chinese children and the Chinese government do "regulate" them. And of course, between STEM content and shit, most Chinese children I have met (well, genius do exist), prefer shit.
chucksta 4y ago
It's open policy, from the link; https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-recommendation-algorithm-regulations-effect-march-1-2022/ https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-re... http://www.cac.gov.cn/2022-01/04/c_1642894606364259.htm http://www.cac.gov.cn/2022-01/04/c_1642894606364259.htm
- mcculley 4y ago
  I am aware of these policies. It is not clear to me that they are having the claimed effect.
ipaddr 4y ago
You would visit in person if you were a true skeptic. It seems to come from this policy. https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-recommendation-algorithm-regulations-effect-march-1-2022/ https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-re...
- mcculley 4y ago
  I am aware of these claims. The document to which you linked says, “If enforced as intended…” It is not clear to me how universally these regulations are enforced. My skepticism requires that I go there? This is a different definition of skepticism than I was previously aware of. During the Cold War, I was skeptical of many of the claims about the evil Soviets. I did not have the opportunity then to visit. Was I not a proper skeptic?
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    A true skeptic might not even believe a Russia exists without visiting. A proper skeptic would need to be skeptic of both sides and all information coming out. A common skeptic would watch the news and only be skeptical about your side. Universally? There is only one tiktok. But in general the ministry of culture and security handle that. They literally employ millions of people to assist in watching what anyone says online. You online entity is connected to your national card. Go check it out for yourself you won't believe it until you see it.
    - mcculley 4y ago
      What makes you so certain of these assertions? They don’t match what my Chinese friends say.
      - ipaddr 4y ago
        I can start you here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-24396957 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-24396957 Let me know if you need any help navigating a search engine but you should be able to put similiar keywords and get a variety of information from any number of sources.

you can download the douyin app or goto https://www.douyin.com/ https://www.douyin.com/ The more stupid things you look for, the more stupid things you see. Its the same in the us as it is in china.

yibg 4y ago

Why does it matter what content is shown in China? Many countries have content requirements the US does not. Isn’t the important part what is shown in the US and if it’s manipulated or just responding to user demand like every other platform?

qwezxcrty 4y ago

There are VPNs tunneling back to China, search for 翻墙回国 (+ DeepL) and you can find a lot of providers. Those are quite popular for Chinese speaking people outside of China to get access to geoblocked contents (video, music, etc.). But usually the biggest problem is how to get a Chinese phone number. In China, most apps require you to register with a phone number (+SMS verification), which is your de facto personal identity number. Back to the topic, I can confirm this for you. Douyin is also serving shit to Chinese children and the Chinese government do "regulate" them. And of course, between STEM content and shit, most Chinese children I have met (well, genius do exist), prefer shit.

chucksta 4y ago

It's open policy, from the link; https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-recommendation-algorithm-regulations-effect-march-1-2022/ https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-re... http://www.cac.gov.cn/2022-01/04/c_1642894606364259.htm http://www.cac.gov.cn/2022-01/04/c_1642894606364259.htm

mcculley 4y ago
I am aware of these policies. It is not clear to me that they are having the claimed effect.

ipaddr 4y ago

You would visit in person if you were a true skeptic. It seems to come from this policy. https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-recommendation-algorithm-regulations-effect-march-1-2022/ https://www.china-briefing.com/news/china-passes-sweeping-re...

mcculley 4y ago
I am aware of these claims. The document to which you linked says, “If enforced as intended…” It is not clear to me how universally these regulations are enforced. My skepticism requires that I go there? This is a different definition of skepticism than I was previously aware of. During the Cold War, I was skeptical of many of the claims about the evil Soviets. I did not have the opportunity then to visit. Was I not a proper skeptic?
- ipaddr 4y ago
  A true skeptic might not even believe a Russia exists without visiting. A proper skeptic would need to be skeptic of both sides and all information coming out. A common skeptic would watch the news and only be skeptical about your side. Universally? There is only one tiktok. But in general the ministry of culture and security handle that. They literally employ millions of people to assist in watching what anyone says online. You online entity is connected to your national card. Go check it out for yourself you won't believe it until you see it.
  - mcculley 4y ago
    What makes you so certain of these assertions? They don’t match what my Chinese friends say.
    - ipaddr 4y ago
      I can start you here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-24396957 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-24396957 Let me know if you need any help navigating a search engine but you should be able to put similiar keywords and get a variety of information from any number of sources.