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You are right, it is not. I totally get that and I think we should work to remove bias out of the process. Maybe removing names and genders from the essays or
by throwaway23236 4y ago
You are right, it is not. I totally get that and I think we should work to remove bias out of the process.
Maybe removing names and genders from the essays or similar entry requirements. There are ways to reduce bias without resorting to some kind of standardized test which only shows that they can pass a test.
Elite Universities are looking for people of character, that could be anyone from any walk of life. But it is self-serving, they are looking for people who will end up bringing money, recognition, and fame back to the school. They are looking for people who want to go there, who will go far in life and talk about how X university is where it all started.
I get that this is a difficult topic, and I want everyone in the world to be a lifelong learner, reader, and more.
But not everyone is built the same, that doesn't mean they won't go far in life. And I don't think recognizing that difference is racist or discriminatory. Not everyone will become a Harvard grad, the president, CEO of a company, etc. Some people are dealt a shittier hands in life and get less draws from the deck, we should work to fix that, but we shouldn't lump everyone into one basket.
- RestlessMind 4y ago> we should work to remove bias out of the process. How would you remove the biggest bias of money? People with money will throw it at gaming anything used by college admission process.
- throwaway23236 4y agoRemove names, gender, race from admissions. Have a selection board base their decisions solely on a combination of transcripts and essays. I think standardized testing is gaming the system, what you cannot game are transcripts of life long learners who value their education. If you remove all gendered language, names, mentions of race from essays you will hopefully be able to make your group decisions with less bias. The group should be diverse enough on multiple metrics. Will it be perfect, no. But I think it's a better start than what we currently have.
- tester756 4y ago>what you cannot game are transcripts of life long learners who value their education. What does it even mean?
- throwaway23236 4y agoI mean that seeing someone's grades over the course of several years is more useful then test scores.
- tester756 4y agoTest score is almost 100% under someone's control meanwhile grades are subject to bias, heavily. Grades only hint that you gave a fuck about school.
- sokoloff 4y agoIsn’t “gave a fuck about school” relevant to scoring a college applicant?
- mindslight 4y agoIt's more like "gave a fuck about high school", so not really. The people that won that game weren't the smartest but rather the best at conforming to expectations. Although perhaps this has changed now that the dreaded Permanent Record has become our reality.
- tester756 4y agoIf somebody manages to don't give a fuck (maybe s/he's doing something cool on the side), and yet still manages to top on the exams, then why would it be relevant?