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Hate speech is illegal in numerous countries, Germany being the most prominent example. That specific case is covered in the article, too.

umvi 4y ago
Well then the crux of the issue is that you cannot build a global free speech platform. What is free speech in USA is illegal speech in Germany, China, etc. If you really want a free speech platform, you can only really deploy it in countries that respect the same level of free speech (or greater) as your own. And that's leaving a lot of money on the table for publicly traded companies, hence free speech morals go out the window in favor of growth/region-specific censorship.
- medvezhenok 4y ago
  Incitement to violence is illegal in the U.S.A. too. The line between hate speech and incitement to violence can get awfully blurry in some cases.
  - hackerlight 4y ago
    There is a line legally speaking, but not in reality if we're talking about the literal meaning of the words "incitement to violence". There are over three mass shooters in the US that were strictly radicalized by hate speech in online forums. That speech directly caused them to kill people.
luckylion 4y ago
It depends. Hate speech (§130 StGb "Volksverhetzung") is illegal in Germany when it's directed at minorities, it's not illegal itself. When the German parliament voted to recognize the actions of the Turks against the Armenians as an act of genocide, a Turkish politician in Germany (Malik Karabulut) published that "this whore called Germany has declared war on us" and "Germans are a race of dogs" and similar stuff. There was some scandal, his political affiliations disowned him, but the prosecution decided not to move forward with the case because it's only illegal to perform hate speech against minorities and Germans are by definition not a minority in Germany.

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Hate speech is illegal in numerous countries, Germany being the most prominent example. That specific case is covered in the article, too.

by Etheryte 4y ago

umvi 4y ago
Well then the crux of the issue is that you cannot build a global free speech platform. What is free speech in USA is illegal speech in Germany, China, etc. If you really want a free speech platform, you can only really deploy it in countries that respect the same level of free speech (or greater) as your own. And that's leaving a lot of money on the table for publicly traded companies, hence free speech morals go out the window in favor of growth/region-specific censorship.
- medvezhenok 4y ago
  Incitement to violence is illegal in the U.S.A. too. The line between hate speech and incitement to violence can get awfully blurry in some cases.
  - hackerlight 4y ago
    There is a line legally speaking, but not in reality if we're talking about the literal meaning of the words "incitement to violence". There are over three mass shooters in the US that were strictly radicalized by hate speech in online forums. That speech directly caused them to kill people.
luckylion 4y ago
It depends. Hate speech (§130 StGb "Volksverhetzung") is illegal in Germany when it's directed at minorities, it's not illegal itself. When the German parliament voted to recognize the actions of the Turks against the Armenians as an act of genocide, a Turkish politician in Germany (Malik Karabulut) published that "this whore called Germany has declared war on us" and "Germans are a race of dogs" and similar stuff. There was some scandal, his political affiliations disowned him, but the prosecution decided not to move forward with the case because it's only illegal to perform hate speech against minorities and Germans are by definition not a minority in Germany.