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Why did you feel the need to misrepresent what actually happened, then? The word "trans" is conspicuously absent from your original comment; you described it as

Why did you feel the need to misrepresent what actually happened, then? The word "trans" is conspicuously absent from your original comment; you described it as "a satire article naming a national bureaucrat as man of the year".

anon291 4y ago
Because it's not particularly relevant. Satire articles make jokes about all kinds of people. For example, SNL regularly has females portray cis males and males portray cis females. Politicians regularly (rightly or wrongly) attack their opponents as not living up to whatever gender ideals exist. As an example, SNL had a lady play Rudy Giuliani to make fun of him: https://popculture.com/tv-shows/news/snl-cecily-strongs-michigan-lady-parody-from-rudy-giuliani-testimony-has-fans-rolling/ https://popculture.com/tv-shows/news/snl-cecily-strongs-mich... Why is one acceptable and the other not, other than one's own perceived bias about which 'side' has the moral upper hand?
- jakelazaroff 4y ago
  It's "not particularly relevant" except for the part where it was the reason they were banned. Deliberately misgendering someone is not the same as making fun of them. The Babylon Bee's entire punchline is just that they're using a hateful slur.
  - ilyt 4y ago
    Yeah still not seeing it as something worth banning people over or having any actual harm. I didn't boycott the shop where cashier called me a girl either.
  - yumyumyum 4y ago
    It was a satire on USA Today naming Levine as one of their Women Of The Year despite him not actually being a woman. The message underlying this is: if men who, as the Bee put it, "dress like a western cultural stereotype of a woman" are now eligible for women's awards, then what does that leave for actual women to be honoured as women?
  - anon291 4y ago
    On the contrary, the bee and others would argue that giving awards for women to biological males who dress like women is yet another form of discrimination against women. How can you honestly say that the bee should be banned for using satire to point out discrimination against women and compare that to Nazi germany? This is the moral bankruptcy I was talking about
    - jakelazaroff 4y ago
      “How can you honestly say that someone should be banned for using satire to point out Jewish control of the banking system and compare that to Nazi germany? This is the moral bankruptcy I was talking about.” You see how that sounds? How do you think the Nazis treated trans people? You think it turned out any better for them than for the Jews?

anon291 4y ago

Because it's not particularly relevant. Satire articles make jokes about all kinds of people. For example, SNL regularly has females portray cis males and males portray cis females. Politicians regularly (rightly or wrongly) attack their opponents as not living up to whatever gender ideals exist. As an example, SNL had a lady play Rudy Giuliani to make fun of him: https://popculture.com/tv-shows/news/snl-cecily-strongs-michigan-lady-parody-from-rudy-giuliani-testimony-has-fans-rolling/ https://popculture.com/tv-shows/news/snl-cecily-strongs-mich... Why is one acceptable and the other not, other than one's own perceived bias about which 'side' has the moral upper hand?

jakelazaroff 4y ago
It's "not particularly relevant" except for the part where it was the reason they were banned. Deliberately misgendering someone is not the same as making fun of them. The Babylon Bee's entire punchline is just that they're using a hateful slur.
- ilyt 4y ago
  Yeah still not seeing it as something worth banning people over or having any actual harm. I didn't boycott the shop where cashier called me a girl either.
- yumyumyum 4y ago
  It was a satire on USA Today naming Levine as one of their Women Of The Year despite him not actually being a woman. The message underlying this is: if men who, as the Bee put it, "dress like a western cultural stereotype of a woman" are now eligible for women's awards, then what does that leave for actual women to be honoured as women?
- anon291 4y ago
  On the contrary, the bee and others would argue that giving awards for women to biological males who dress like women is yet another form of discrimination against women. How can you honestly say that the bee should be banned for using satire to point out discrimination against women and compare that to Nazi germany? This is the moral bankruptcy I was talking about
  - jakelazaroff 4y ago
    “How can you honestly say that someone should be banned for using satire to point out Jewish control of the banking system and compare that to Nazi germany? This is the moral bankruptcy I was talking about.” You see how that sounds? How do you think the Nazis treated trans people? You think it turned out any better for them than for the Jews?