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Swastika is illegal in many countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans_on_Nazi_symbols https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bans_on_Nazi_symbols

arminiusreturns 4y ago
So is blasphemy. I'm glad I don't live in those countries.
nickthegreek 4y ago
kanye isn't in those countries.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
  Not relevant. Was his post blocked in those countries?
  - nickthegreek 4y ago
    It is very relevant. His posts were blocked in every country (by removing his account). As an american, I dont expect to be banned from a social media company (ran in my country no less) because of a speech law halfway around the world. Elon isn't following policies, he is following his whim. The problem with that is all the previous moderation statements he made did not align with this banning.
    - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
      > I dont expect to be banned from a social media company (ran in my country no less) because of a speech law halfway around the world I expect that the whole account was banned worldwide, more because it made headline news (in the bad way) around the world. And so not banning Kanye's horrible, mentally ill, degrading and rather sad antics, would scare off the advertisers who pay the bills. I mean, the remaining advertisers. > Elon isn't following policies, he is following his whim. Agreed. > The problem with that is all the previous moderation statements he made did not align with this banning It's almost like it wasn't thought through. Like Elon still has no idea what he's doing.
    - cinntaile 4y ago
      Not banning a very public figure for posting a swastika would have killed (what is left of) Twitter ads.
      - bink 4y ago
        That's what many have been saying for weeks now. But Musk has held to his "free speech except what's illegal" stance and accused advertisers who pulled ads of being against "free speech". If he's going to ban people for violating the laws of any country in which twitter operates then he'll effectively be turning twitter into disney and that goes against all of his claims.
        ilyt 4y ago
        I doubt that has anything to do with laws in other countries, he got banned because it was bad for Twitter PR to let him stay
    - prmoustache 4y ago
      Well that would be reasonnable if said social media company was only publishing your content to US geolocalized IP. It doesn't.
- YetAnotherNick 4y ago
  But twitter is. And I don't know if they have option for country level ban.
  - johnny22 4y ago
    they've long banned nazi stuff from appearing to german users since that is illegal there.
colordrops 4y ago
Did he post a swastika? I'm not aware of what exactly got him banned. Wasn't Elon talking about the US anyway? Political speech itself is banned in many countries, so surely that wasn't his measure.
- TylerE 4y ago
  Literally yes. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/02/kanye-west-suspended-from-twitter-after-posting-swastika-inside-the-star-of-david https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/02/kanye-west-sus...
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- booboofixer 4y ago
  Judging from a view screenshots floating around, it seems like his last tweet was actually the famous Elon on a yacht picture.
- themitigating 4y ago
  He also appeared on Alex Jones and was accompanied by white supremacist Nick Fuente and decided to go all in. The rapper said: “I see good things about Hitler … Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.” Jones replied: “The Nazis were thugs.” “But they did good things too,” Ye said. “We gotta stop dissing the Nazis all the time.” “Oh my goodness … just because you don’t like one group doesn’t mean –” Jones said, clearly uncomfortable. Ye interrupted: “I love Jewish people. But I also love Nazis.” “I don’t think Hitler was a good guy,” Jones stated later. Ye replied: “There’s a lot of things that I love about Hitler. A lot of things.”
  - squarefoot 4y ago
    > “But they did good things too,” Ye said. That is the same exact boilerplate response we get over here by extreme right wingers (assuming non extreme right wingers do exist, which over here is not the case) when talking about the atrocities committed by the Mussolini regime: "he did good things too". Yeah sure, like conscience is something that can be recharged like a cellphone battery: "Ok, I've helped 99 old ladies to cross the road, so now I'm entitled to beat and robber the next one!". Those people are full of shit, period.

arminiusreturns 4y ago

So is blasphemy. I'm glad I don't live in those countries.

nickthegreek 4y ago

kanye isn't in those countries.

SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
Not relevant. Was his post blocked in those countries?
- nickthegreek 4y ago
  It is very relevant. His posts were blocked in every country (by removing his account). As an american, I dont expect to be banned from a social media company (ran in my country no less) because of a speech law halfway around the world. Elon isn't following policies, he is following his whim. The problem with that is all the previous moderation statements he made did not align with this banning.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago
    > I dont expect to be banned from a social media company (ran in my country no less) because of a speech law halfway around the world I expect that the whole account was banned worldwide, more because it made headline news (in the bad way) around the world. And so not banning Kanye's horrible, mentally ill, degrading and rather sad antics, would scare off the advertisers who pay the bills. I mean, the remaining advertisers. > Elon isn't following policies, he is following his whim. Agreed. > The problem with that is all the previous moderation statements he made did not align with this banning It's almost like it wasn't thought through. Like Elon still has no idea what he's doing.
  - cinntaile 4y ago
    Not banning a very public figure for posting a swastika would have killed (what is left of) Twitter ads.
    - bink 4y ago
      That's what many have been saying for weeks now. But Musk has held to his "free speech except what's illegal" stance and accused advertisers who pulled ads of being against "free speech". If he's going to ban people for violating the laws of any country in which twitter operates then he'll effectively be turning twitter into disney and that goes against all of his claims.
      - ilyt 4y ago
        I doubt that has anything to do with laws in other countries, he got banned because it was bad for Twitter PR to let him stay
  - prmoustache 4y ago
    Well that would be reasonnable if said social media company was only publishing your content to US geolocalized IP. It doesn't.
YetAnotherNick 4y ago
But twitter is. And I don't know if they have option for country level ban.
- johnny22 4y ago
  they've long banned nazi stuff from appearing to german users since that is illegal there.

colordrops 4y ago

Did he post a swastika? I'm not aware of what exactly got him banned. Wasn't Elon talking about the US anyway? Political speech itself is banned in many countries, so surely that wasn't his measure.

TylerE 4y ago
Literally yes. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/02/kanye-west-suspended-from-twitter-after-posting-swastika-inside-the-star-of-david https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/dec/02/kanye-west-sus...
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booboofixer 4y ago
Judging from a view screenshots floating around, it seems like his last tweet was actually the famous Elon on a yacht picture.
themitigating 4y ago
He also appeared on Alex Jones and was accompanied by white supremacist Nick Fuente and decided to go all in. The rapper said: “I see good things about Hitler … Every human being has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler.” Jones replied: “The Nazis were thugs.” “But they did good things too,” Ye said. “We gotta stop dissing the Nazis all the time.” “Oh my goodness … just because you don’t like one group doesn’t mean –” Jones said, clearly uncomfortable. Ye interrupted: “I love Jewish people. But I also love Nazis.” “I don’t think Hitler was a good guy,” Jones stated later. Ye replied: “There’s a lot of things that I love about Hitler. A lot of things.”
- squarefoot 4y ago
  > “But they did good things too,” Ye said. That is the same exact boilerplate response we get over here by extreme right wingers (assuming non extreme right wingers do exist, which over here is not the case) when talking about the atrocities committed by the Mussolini regime: "he did good things too". Yeah sure, like conscience is something that can be recharged like a cellphone battery: "Ok, I've helped 99 old ladies to cross the road, so now I'm entitled to beat and robber the next one!". Those people are full of shit, period.