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Chips aren't a living thing. You take some sand, project light onto it, dissolve the parts not exposed to light, and now it can execute instructions. No big d
by jrockway 4y ago
Chips aren't a living thing. You take some sand, project light onto it, dissolve the parts not exposed to light, and now it can execute instructions. No big deal. Electricity is required as an input, though, so when it doesn't have anything useful to do it can avoid consuming electricity. Therefore, it's not clear to me that it's a waste to leave it off or idle. Are you upset that your bed remains unused for the 16 hours a day when you're not sleeping? Probably not.
(Even if you use resistive heating to heat your living space, it's not necessarily a win to make a computer convert that electricity into heat and computation results. They're 100% efficient, but heat pumps are MORE than 100% efficient. So unless you really want the compute results, it's a waste of electricity.)
Another angle that people always seem confused about is latency versus throughput. When you decide to look up cat pictures, your computer needs to perform billions of calculations in a very short period of time. That means that chips have to be able to do a lot of work in a short interval of time, or nobody will want them. A higher utilization could be achieved by building a machine that is less powerful, but spreads the cat picture rendering calculations out over time; if you want to see 8 cat pictures a day, and 100 compute units are required to display a cat picture, then you only need a CPU that can process 0.01 compute units per second. But, then the human is idle for 10,000 seconds in the time between wanting to see a cat picture and seeing the cat picture, which is annoying to the humans. So the chips have to be "overpowered" to be able to display cat pictures in a timeframe that is non-annoying to humans.
TL;DR: don't feel sad for engraved chunks of sand.
- samus 4y ago> No big deal. Quite the opposite. Microchips are a high technology product, and making them consumes a huge amount of resources. More advanced technology nodes have increasingly stringent requirements regarding the purity of source materials, environmental conditioning, equipment, and energy consumption. And behind them is a huge supply chain where much the same is valid. The complexity and sophistication in this industry to be competitive at the state of the art is mindblowing.
- jrockway 4y agoYeah. I didn't mean to be dismissive. From the perspective of companies like TSMC and Intel, making chips is just what they do. If they sell their thing for $8 and you only use it to look at cat pictures, I don't think they're sad or anything. You gave them your money, they gave them their chip, everyone is happy. If someone nukes the factories and engineers, obviously society suffers an incomprehensible loss. All I'm saying is that it's OK to take it for granted. The people that know how to do the thing are doing their thing. It's wonderful.
- samus 4y agoWell, I didn't take your comment to be dismissive about the work that goes into the product. My point was more about the ecological impact of high technology manufacturing in general. Which is something that I suspect to not be included in the item price.